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Alligator attack at Myrtle Beach
06/27/22 at 09:43:53

I saw a story about a fatal alligator attack In Myrtle Beach. I also read a story about the megalodon shark, the largest predator in the ocean 50 million years ago. In the story, they said if it had not gone extinct, our life in the ocean would not be the same as it is today. No beaches, no surfing no small boats etc.

Bull$hit. We would’ve rightly killed off the megalodon shark long ago. Which brings up my question. I remember a few years ago a small child was killed by an alligator near a Disney park. What value do alligators offer today’s environment? Other than boots and gimmicky sandwich shops in Texas, none that I can think of. Why don’t we just simply kill every single living alligator in United States? Why not?

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Reply #1 - 06/27/22 at 11:34:31

Darn good question. What do they do that makes them valuable to the circle of life? Is there some other critters that, without the predation of the gators ,would cause serious damage? They are an apex predator. The only things they have to be afraid of is a good guy with a gun and another gator.
Someone smarter than I would have to explain why it's a bad idea to get rid of them.

If not a program to kill them all,maybe a program to get them out of water hazards on the golf course and waters bordering neighborhoods.

Today, the American alligator is no longer endangered, but it is still a "protected species." It is protected because the alligator looks like some species of crocodiles and caimans, which are still endangered. Because of this, the Fish and Wildlife Service categorizes the American alligator as “threatened due to similarity of appearance.”

Might be time to rethink that.

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Reply #2 - 06/27/22 at 11:53:32

I have spent my fair share of years in states where those creatures flourish. I'm don't believe it is possible to eradicate them, they are pretty resilient. They have been around for a long time. As you are aware they have no natural predators, and it is pretty difficult for humans to kill them. The only weak part of their anatomy is a spot on the back of their heads about the size of a dime. I'm told a .22 can easily kill them, but nearly all calibers elsewhere prove futile. It also takes a 'special' person to go hunting.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Alligator attack at Myrtle Beach Reply #3 - 06/27/22 at 12:20:27 How did they become endangered?
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Reply #4 - 06/27/22 at 13:40:51

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/27/22 at 12:20:27:

How did they become endangered?

To many Boots/Purses/Belts/Tables/etc.

"... Extinctions have been a natural part of our planet’s evolutionary history. More than 99% of the four billion species that have evolved on Earth are now gone.
At least 900 species have gone extinct in the last five centuries ...":

What % of FOUR BILLION, is 900 ?

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Reply #5 - 06/27/22 at 13:44:29

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/27/22 at 12:20:27:

How did they become endangered?

I don't have a good answer for you. I suspect like most institutions they start off with noble objections and as the organizational culture changes their values changes as well. They will always need to justify their existence and budgets. Do you think all these need to be on that list?

https://ecos.fws.gov/ecp0/reports/ad-hoc-species-report?kingdom=V&kingdom=I&stat
us=E&stat

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Alligator attack at Myrtle Beach Reply #6 - 06/27/22 at 16:12:35 I'm just saying, if they are so hard to kill, what made their population drop? And no, I'm not a believer in everything that They say is endangered. Without species that must be saved, they don't have a job and annual budget to play with.
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: Alligator attack at Myrtle Beach Reply #7 - 06/27/22 at 17:24:42 I'm no expert on gators, but they are not endangered anymore. Best regards,
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13126 Gender:	Re: Alligator attack at Myrtle Beach Reply #8 - 06/27/22 at 18:05:44 pg wrote on 06/27/22 at 17:24:42: I'm no expert on gators, but they are not endangered anymore. Best regards, Let’s make them endangered. Can’t tell me .45 at close range won’t do it.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Alligator attack at Myrtle Beach Reply #9 - 06/27/22 at 20:21:18 http://wildlifeanimalcontrol.com/alligatorkill.html
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Reply #10 - 06/28/22 at 03:49:45

I don’t know about that article. That sounds like the news report I just heard that told me that fireworks are dangerous and I shouldn’t shoot them off myself because I’ll get hurt. Leave it to the professionals. But millions and millions and millions use them every single year with no incident. I have. So maybe it’s hard to kill an alligator, maybe it’s not. Maybe they’re just saying that so people don’t take matters into their own hands. I don’t know. All I know is if I lived in Florida and found an alligator in my pond, I’d kill him.

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Reply #11 - 06/28/22 at 05:49:46

... Extinctions have been a natural part of our planet’s evolutionary history. More than 99% of the four billion species that have evolved on Earth are now gone.
At least 900 species have gone extinct in the last five centuries ...":

What % of FOUR BILLION, is 900 ?

The 900 is just the past 5 centuries, not the entirety of the timeframe presented.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28661 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Alligator attack at Myrtle Beach Reply #12 - 06/28/22 at 06:50:48 I'm more bothered by mosquitoes. What good are they? ...and what evolutionary track made their bite hurt us? Wouldn't a better evolutionary track have made their bite give us mini orgasms?
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13126 Gender:	Re: Alligator attack at Myrtle Beach Reply #13 - 06/28/22 at 07:01:48 Serowbot wrote on 06/28/22 at 06:50:48: I'm more bothered by mosquitoes. What good are they? ...and what evolutionary track made their bite hurt us? Wouldn't a better evolutionary track have made their bite give us mini orgasms? Sure it would. But maybe that’s because evolution isn’t what you think it is.
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Reply #14 - 06/28/22 at 11:02:42

Serowbot wrote on 06/28/22 at 06:50:48:

I'm more bothered by mosquitoes.
What good are they?
...and what evolutionary track made their bite hurt us?
Wouldn't a better evolutionary track have made their bite give us mini orgasms?

Effin Brilliant, Bot.
They are bat food,

I know nothing about a gator, like how tough is that skin,how big and where is the heart,,but I'm aware of the ability of certain bullets being stopped short of killing. But if I had a shotgun with the full length shell, loaded with slugs,or a 30-06, from straight on,firing at the chest, I'd expect to drop that sukkah.

Of Course there is always the chance the witnesses would hear me screaming
I really thought that would work
As the dinosaur chilled down on me.

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