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Re: I'm pretty sure he said something bad
Reply #15 - 06/07/22 at 18:13:06
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/07/22 at 11:28:48:
You'd think such a stickler for language would know a little more about grammar and spelling.

Now exactly how/what/why,
that would have anything to do with,
Blaming someone/some thing, else,
for the reason,
'Gun Control' does NOT stop Crime ?


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Re: I'm pretty sure he said something bad
Reply #16 - 06/07/22 at 18:20:35
 
Eegore wrote on 06/07/22 at 09:10:19:
"  So I agree with you and you still have issues.

INCORRECT.

"... the way you are interpreting it..."

and
"... to correct Serowbot..."

Is simply CYA'ing, and 'Spinning'.
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Re: I'm pretty sure he said something bad
Reply #17 - 06/07/22 at 20:28:08
 
"Is simply CYA'ing, and 'Spinning'."

 Incorrect.  If I didn't agree with you I would not lia and say I agree just to CYA.  I have no A that needs C here, this is just a forum where mostly old guys complain.  

 My interpretation was Serowbot meant a Human could travel on a bus, or any other means of conveyance, a distance of 10 minutes, or more, and get a gun in Chicago.  I believe this to be true.

 However upon reading it again I see that he might have meant a legal purchase outside of Chicago City limits.  This would be incorrect as a Human could only legally purchase a gun that is legally available for sale.
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Reply #18 - 06/08/22 at 06:07:23
 
Nitpicking.
The point is,.. a gun restriction is meaningless when it applies only to a small designated area.
Much like "gun free" zones.
They might deter law abiding citizens, but not criminals.

In other countries gun restrictions that are nation wide do work.
This is why we rule the mass shooting.
A nation wide assault weapon ban would help.
We had one before and worked. Since it was dropped, mass shootings and gun sales have skyrocketed.
This is a price gun lobbyists are willing to pay.
The preponderance of American people are not.

Would an abortion ban work in Chicago?   No.
It would just make women have to travel a few miles.

A fence for your dog is useless if you leave the gate open.
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Reply #19 - 06/08/22 at 07:14:10
 
In other countries gun restrictions that are nation wide do work.
This is why we rule the mass shooting.
A nation wide assault weapon ban would help.
We had one before and worked. Since it was dropped, mass shootings and gun sales have skyrocketed.

There’s way to much behind each of those statements to label them as true
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Reply #20 - 06/08/22 at 07:18:15
 
We measure all types of things by rate per million. Here’s one.

Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

Norway — 1.888
Serbia — 0.381
France — 0.347
Macedonia — 0.337
Albania — 0.206
Slovakia — 0.185
Switzerland — 0.142
Finland — 0.132
Belgium — 0.128
Czech Republic — 0.123
United States — 0.089
Austria — 0.068
Netherlands — 0.051
Canada — 0.032
England — 0.027
Germany — 0.023
Russia — 0.012
Italy — 0.009
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Reply #21 - 06/08/22 at 07:23:07
 
And let’s face it, right now we’re calling all kinds of things mass shootings and trying to lump them together as the same as what happened in Buffalo or Texas.

What happened in Philadelphia the other night for example is nowhere near the same thing as what happened in Buffalo, Texas, or Sandy Hook.

I’ll stand by what I said the other day. You can’t have my rights. Sorry, but you can’t have them.
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Reply #22 - 06/08/22 at 08:11:40
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/08/22 at 06:07:23:
"... nation wide assault weapon ban  ...
... We had one before and worked ..."

       INCORRECT

The Clinton Gun Ban,
did NOT work !
IN FACT, it was the cause of millions  more of High capacity magazines being made and sold.
AND, just before the, 'sunset', many existing gun companies, and many new gun companies were created, prices rose, and after the 'sunset', the sale of, 'evil guns, (As described by the GUN BANNERS), Surged !

  "... gun sales have skyrocketed ..."
A-Yep, after the Clinton Ban,
Because of the FDS'ing progressive Socialists,
Slapping Hands.
And not holding people responsible for their actions.

"...  like "gun free" zones.
They might deter law abiding citizens,
but not criminals ..."


That is a Yep !
What you totally forget is that the,
"downtown's', where firearms are severely restricted.
That restriction Does Not Work,
Because that area, is the EASIEST PLACE,
to buy a gun out of a 'car trunk'.

Where that opportunity does NOT exist
10 min  bus ride outside of that, 'gun-ban', area.

So why, 'Gun Free Zones' are a Total Joke.
Gun, BANS, are a Total Joke

Draconian gun BANS in a area,
Increases Crime with guns

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Reply #23 - 06/08/22 at 08:20:23
 
Eegore wrote on 06/07/22 at 20:28:08:
"...  upon reading it again I see that he might have meant a legal purchase outside of Chicago City limits. ..."

A person, legally forbidden to possess a firearm,
inside those limits.
Are NOT able to, outside those limits.

Yet that a very common, DFI, FDS, Progressive, Socialistic view.
              "It's SOMEONE ELSE'S fault"

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Reply #24 - 06/08/22 at 08:32:31
 
I triple dog dare you to read this and the links.
https://www.mlive.com/opinion/2015/11/keeping_guns_out_gets_us_nowhe.html
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Reply #25 - 06/08/22 at 13:25:25
 

 I'd say the article Webstermark provides is pretty accurate.  The VPC info can be debated in regards to thousands of a percent difference, but that is pretty much negligible.

 Some people won't acknowledge that Gun Free Zones is where killers want to be.
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Reply #26 - 06/08/22 at 14:12:48
 
Deceptive video thread becomes gun restriction thread.
Oh well...

https://theconversation.com/did-the-assault-weapons-ban-of-1994-bring-down-ma...
"Nonetheless, according to our study, President Biden’s claim that the rate of mass shootings during the period of the assault weapons ban “went down” only for it to rise again after the law was allowed to expire in 2004 holds true."
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Reply #27 - 06/08/22 at 14:27:04
 
 It's ok to derail all other topics into gun-control conversations.  But if it goes the other way, that's bad, spin, deflection, off-topic etc.


 Besides, nobody is going to acknowledge the video was altered because truth and facts are irrelevant when it comes to hearing something we want to be true.  We want this CEO to be a jerk so we ignore the lies and pretend the duplicitous footage is real.

"reduce the number of people in the world that cannot afford our medicines by 50 percent."

 Just pretend that underlined section was never said so we can move along saying this guy is a jerk using lies as proof.
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Reply #28 - 06/08/22 at 15:24:52
 
Oh yeah,... I guess I forgot where I was.  Grin
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Reply #29 - 06/08/22 at 16:38:41
 
What was that about,
   Whining ?????
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