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05/28/22 at 12:20:03
 
CHARLESTON, W.Va. - A woman in West Virginia fatally shot a man who began firing an AR-15-style rifle into a crowd of people that had gathered for a party, authorities said.
Dennis Butler, 37, was killed Wednesday night after he pulled out the rifle and began shooting at dozens of people attending the birthday-graduation party outside an apartment complex in the city of Charleston, police said in a statement.
The woman, who was attending the party, drew a pistol and fired, killing Butler, the statement said. No one at the party was injured. "Instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night," Chief of Detectives Tony Hazelett told news outlets Thursday.
Butler was at the apartment complex earlier in the evening in a vehicle and had been warned to slow down because children were playing, police said. They said he left, but returned later, parked in front of the complex and began firing.
After fatally shooting Butler, the woman waited along with several witnesses for police to arrive, and all have cooperated with the investigation, authorities said. Hazelett said no charges would be filed against the woman.
Somebody buy that lady a cocktail. The TV report can be found here:
https://www.wsaz.com/2022/05/26/person-detained-after-shots-fired-call/

People wearing seat belts die,sometimes. Wearing a helmet doesn't mean you can't die. Life ain't fair,but being prepared is better than not. I'm not going to debate the value or effectiveness of removing guns from the People, because it simply can't be allowed to happen. I would love to see where the lefty answers have been successful.

Look at the poverty and violence where lefties are running things.
You people should not need anyone to argue with you. You should change everything you believe, based on the results of seeing what you support be put into action. Total FAILURE, in Every way. You lefties ARE the cancer on society.
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Reply #1 - 05/28/22 at 13:05:55
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/28/22 at 12:20:03:
You lefties ARE the cancer on society.

Very nice
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Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
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Reply #2 - 05/28/22 at 14:03:35
 
Sometimes truth is not sweet.
You and your kind have been able to force the adults to accept your screwed up ideas as
The Answer.
We have had to watch the failures and count the bodies. It's time to stop being nice. You and your ideas are the reason so many people are DEAD. Now, sit down, shut UP, and allow Us to show you how it works. Yeah, at first, it's gonna suck,but once the idiots realize that the penalty for their behavior is a bullet,they will back off.

The first week or so when the governor of Louisiana called on the people to arm themselves against the carjackers was bloody. Then, they decided it was not a really fun game any more.
Was it over? No, but it was no longer rampant.
Nobody is pretending that crazy people won't still do crazy things, but it Will change,
And IF they change their Target, okay, society can beef up and protect the new targets.

Better than seeing innocent children murdered.

Ohh,wait, maybe not, in the eyes of the people who believe killing the unborn is just Awwright.

You don't have kids. Where do you get the right to tell parents how they can protect their children?


I have a number for a really good oncologist.
Message me.
Maybe we can get you to a place where you are not killing people.

Your ways are death.

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Reply #3 - 05/28/22 at 14:55:16
 

 But the argument is this lady wouldn't have had to shoot the man with the AR if the man with the AR could not get an AR.

 Unrealistic, but that's the argument.
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Reply #4 - 05/28/22 at 15:16:54
 
Unrealistic, but that's the argument

Yeah,, and it's really time for the proponents of what is unrealistic to stop pretending they are pushing for a solution that IS realistic.

They ACT like those of us who knew from the beginning that a FUKKING SIGN was Not going to stop someone who was INTENT ON MASS MURDER from going in.

Pretending that there is a big enough problem that WE Simply Must Do SOMETHING, just like Bammycare, the system was So Broken, forget that it was intentional, and I have run that past doctors,and they agree with me,  
No, A crisis doesn't mean you get to decide the solution. I've seen that. I haven't seen it fail to be a monumental screw up.b You lefties need to sit this one out.
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Reply #5 - 05/28/22 at 15:30:45
 
Eegore wrote on 05/28/22 at 14:55:16:
"But the argument ... ... if the man with the AR could not get an AR.

Yep, Get rid of those RED cars.

So now he can't get a AR lookalike.
He gets a Shotgun !!!!!!!!
And then Sprays buckshot.
(Odds go WAY UP, someone is going to get hit)

Wait, I Know the answer.

BAN SHOTGUNS !!!!!!
(or Blue Cars)



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Reply #6 - 05/28/22 at 19:46:51
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/28/22 at 12:20:03:
"... fatally shot a man who began firing an AR-15-style rifle into a crowd ..."

Does not say how many shots he took.
And don’t know how many shots he took,
        before being shot.

So let’s just pick a number and say 5.
That would be 5, projectiles,
shot, SPRAY & PRAY style.

(Ya Know those AR style guns are SO EVAL)


Golly Gee Wally,
One shot, from a Single Shot Shotgun,
Could have launched, 25 +,
LARGER projectiles.

What do you think the odds would have been that someone was hit ?

Now, was it the ‘GASP’. Gun,
Or was it the DFI FDS ???????????
(Who never got a, ‘Hey You Showed Up’, Trophy)

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


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Reply #7 - 05/28/22 at 23:55:23
 

 If shotguns were used more often for mass shooting then people would be calling to ban them.  As long as AR is the primary choice it will be the primary target.

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Reply #8 - 05/29/22 at 09:29:16
 
Eegore wrote on 05/28/22 at 23:55:23:
"...  As long as AR is the primary choice it will be the primary target.  


Yep and as soon as the AR like firearms are BANNED,
Shotguns will be soon to follow !

Who was that that said,
and how many years ago was it said ?

You give up a freedom to own a AR type rifle,
for the sake of security from mass shootings,
(by a total, mentally disturbed FDS DFI)

      you will have neither

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #9 - 05/29/22 at 10:44:28
 
Well, one local genius seems to not want to see teachers armed, because the bad guys would just go elsewhere.

Maybe he just doesn't understand that when the AR is outlawed, murderers will choose a different gun.

How about just admit that society has always had bad guys and prepare accordingly?
The right to self defense must not be taken away from people, teachers included.

Ohh,but that won't be a perfect answer..

No SCHITT!!
That is just reality.
Lefties have been driving the Rulebook of Acceptable Answers for years,, and a SCHITT job they have done.

I'm not understanding Why ANYONE would listen to them about keeping the kids safe.
Murder in the womb,
Check
Proposals for
Abortion
Up to two years old
Check

I'm pretty sure I remember being told that since I don't have a uterus I shouldn't involve myself in the abortion debate. IDK if that is still the argument, now that men can get pregnant and have an abortion, but if you don't have children, what business is it of yours if teachers are armed?

Lefties have destroyed everything they control, look at Chicago.
Cancerous ideology.
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"Well, one local genius seems to not want to see teachers armed, because the bad guys would just go elsewhere."

 That makes zero sense.  I wonder if that local genius is being misquoted.


"The right to self defense must not be taken away from people, teachers included."

 Not arming teachers is not taking away their right to self-defense.  No matter how many times people try to make it sound like that, it is not true.  It removes their ability to use guns to defend themselves at work.  If someone punches a teacher on a plane, that teacher can not stop it?
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Reply #11 - 05/29/22 at 12:57:41
 
Did Kamala or Joe help you with that?
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Reply #12 - 05/29/22 at 19:49:19
 
Eegore wrote on 05/29/22 at 12:01:20:
"...   Not arming teachers is not taking away their right to self-defense.  ..."

A student comes up to a Teacher, and hits them.
   (In School)
They cannot hit back. They cannot Defend themselves.

A student comes up to a Teacher, and stabs them with a knife.
 (In School)
They cannot Stab back. They cannot Defend themselves.

A student comes up to a Teacher, and points a gun at them them.
 (In School)
They cannot shoot back. They cannot Defend themselves.

"...If someone punches a teacher on a plane,..."

Not talking about a PLANE, never was.
But go ahead and Spin it.

We are talking about allowing Teachers to be armed.
And when Teachers are NOT ALLOWED to be armed,
 (In School)
that IS, taking away their right to self-defense.




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Reply #13 - 05/29/22 at 22:40:48
 
Not arming teachers is not taking away their right to self-defense.


Not ALLOWING them to carry Is taking their Second amendment rights.

You can try to spin that.
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Reply #14 - 05/29/22 at 22:45:14
 
A student comes up to a Teacher, and hits them.
  (In School)
They cannot hit back. They cannot Defend themselves.



 Incorrect, they can use the minimum amount of force necessary to stop the assault.  No teacher has to allow a student to assault them or any other known human.


A student comes up to a Teacher, and stabs them with a knife.
(In School)
They cannot Stab back. They cannot Defend themselves.



 That's asinine.  No human has to allow any other human to stab them.  A teacher can defend themselves, you really think a teacher has to allow a student or any other known human to stab them?


"A student comes up to a Teacher, and points a gun at them them.
(In School)
They cannot shoot back. They cannot Defend themselves."


 Incorrect.  No teacher anywhere has to allow a student to murder them.     They can defend themselves.


"We are talking about allowing Teachers to be armed.
And when Teachers are NOT ALLOWED to be armed,
(In School)
that IS, taking away their right to self-defense.
"

 It is not taking away their right to defend themselves.  You really think if a teacher is not allowed to carry a gun they must allow all forms of violence against them to happen?  You are saying a kid can stab a teacher and a teacher is not allowed to stop it from happening unless they have a gun?

Nobody else thinks that.

 Just be honest and say that not allowing a teacher to be armed greatly reduces their ability to defend themselves and others, especially in events where the assailant is armed with a weapon of their own.  Why is it so hard to be honest about that?
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