"And You, actually want people to believe,
          being shot at,
with 90 MORE, and Larger Projectiles,
in the Same Time,
which will expand when hitting flesh.
is MORE 'survivable' ?????????????"

 Lets change the dynamic and say a man is in a hotel room 200 yards away and unloads into a concert with a 12 gauge.

 Then unloads with an AR-15. You mean to tell me an AR is MORE 'survivable' ?????????????

 And you claim you know about guns!  

 We can both manipulate scenarios, it's not hard.

 The point is murder rate per minute, statistically, at this time, is higher with AR-15 style weapons which is why every military on the planet uses rifles and not shotguns as the primary weapon.

 Shotguns kill less people per-minute, statistically.  You can always set up a scenario where a shotgun is more deadly, but statistically it has a lower murder rate per minute.  It has more reload times, typically, but not always.


"I believe, if you actually 'train' people how to shoot.
They would not be able to hit a Barn,
even if they stood inside of one !"

 I never said I train people how to shoot.  So at 300 yards shooting at a group of children you think a shotgun would kill more per minute?  I think if you actually knew anything about guns you would know an AR is more accurate at that range.

 Oh that's right, anyone can dream up a scenario that makes them right and another wrong while ignoring what was actually said.
 

But, if I were in Congress, I would make this proposal. I would increase the national minimum age to purchase our own or possess a firearm to 21 if the voting age was also moved up to 21. If we can’t trust someone to control a weapon how can we trust them to be smart enough and understand enough and controlling enough to vote?

I’d take that.

WebsterMark wrote on 05/28/22 at 05:22:36:

Yep.
A Remington Mod 8,
Is also a semiautomatic,
Which works very well,
and the Mag can be made detachable.

It was made in 1908 !!!!!!!!!

Very Few remember the,
Clinton Gun BAN.
First INCLUDED,
Double barreled Shotguns,
with one trigger !!!!!!!!!

        (Thanks NRA for getting that removed)

"But, if I were in Congress, I would make this proposal. I would increase the national minimum age to purchase our own or possess a firearm to 21 if the voting age was also moved up to 21. If we can’t trust someone to control a weapon how can we trust them to be smart enough and understand enough and controlling enough to vote?

I’d take that."


 I agree.

"Really? Why? What happened? Don't remember when ROTC kids had a shooting range?"

 You mean kids being trained?  Not kids buying a gun online and having a background check and walking off without ever holding a gun in their life?

 
"I guess nobody can join the military till they are21,,"

 You mean where they go through months of training with consistent training for the rest of their career and if they can't pass they don't get to use a gun?  Those kids that are under 21?

 Lets say if you are under 21, join the military, and are IN the military, you can get a gun.  Oh wait, it sounds worse if we propose a ludicrous and unequal idea.

 If we ban AR's for civilians, then the Military can't use them either!

 If we ban guns altogether we can't even have a military!


 The point is if one is an adult, and can vote, they can have any gun of any kind they want.

Eegore wrote on 05/28/22 at 14:51:34:

Please tell us all, when,
  It  Is  Teaching !

Excellent explanation.

However, put on a black stock,
or rattle can the wood stock black, or cameo.

People that think an island
will tip over if too many stood on one side.
Will Still say:  Evil - Ban.

(The GUN BANNING mantra comes uo,
'never mind the facts,
my mind is made up')