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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	I'm surprised that the shooting has not been a Top 05/17/22 at 19:54:21 So ,what is the thinking on that? Am I alone being confused by the lack of attention paid to The Red Car That killt wypeepo?
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8001	Re: I'm surprised that the shooting has not been a Reply #1 - 05/18/22 at 05:20:28 I'd need more specifics. A Top? Priority? What red car, and what's wypeepo?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: I'm surprised that the shooting has not been a Reply #2 - 05/18/22 at 09:12:58 Black dude ran through white people,100% racial attack. Media does sufficient gymnastics to Pretend That red car did it. The idiot who gunned the people down at the grocery store? Known to the cops,, Are you folks seeing a lot of coverage on it?
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Reply #3 - 05/18/22 at 13:30:49

I guess it depends on what "coverage" is.

Most my data team is in Germany right now and don't have time to see what is being broadcast where and for what durations.

Typically the coverage depends on the client base and what the advertising outcomes are when covering similar events. This is why a Google search on your computer will often come up with different search outcomes than if I did it from mine. Or if you searched in one area, then moved across the country and searched again.

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Reply #4 - 05/19/22 at 07:45:55

This is still the lead story on the local news here as of this morning. Of course Buffalo is only 70 miles from here. According to the reports on the news here this retard also had picked out a grocery store here in Rochester as a possible target in addition to the store in Buffalo.

I wonder how many FBI agents posing as "white supremacists" this particular moron was chatting with online while he was writing his so called manifesto" and concocting his plan. 180 pages. And the "authorities" had the whole thing downloaded and released to the press within a few hours of the incident. Huh

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Reply #5 - 05/19/22 at 08:07:09

My cousin in high school had the video from his helmet-cam downloaded and his manifesto in less than an hour. I watched the video maybe 30 - 45 minutes after it happened because of my cousin. I don't think possessing this information means collusion.

You do bring up a good point though about investigators inciting people. It's similar to these YouTube Catch a Predator groups that lure pedo and hebephiles with decoys to a location then confront them.

The decoy group invited him over and said to just come inside. The predator got his messages mixed up (they usually have many kids they talk to) and ended up forcibly assaulting a real girl and not the decoy because he went to the wrong location.

Sure he's a criminal, but wasn't likely going to just walk into a house, the Decoy Group incited this behavior by repeatedly inviting him and telling him it was cool.

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Reply #6 - 05/19/22 at 09:20:22

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You do bring up a good point though about investigators inciting people.

The FBI in particular does a lot more than just incite people. They actively collude with folks like this di*khead and in many cases even expedite their plans. They sometimes even help with the resources needed to carry out the plan.

There was a case here in Rochester a few years back involving a dumba** who posted that he wanted to tie up some folks in a bar and stab them for some crazy ideological reason. An FBI agent came across the post, groomed the guy and even took him to Walmart and loaned him the money to buy rope, duct tape and a knife, then drove him to the bar where other agents arrested him. Without the FBI this nitwit would still be sitting at home jerking off in front of his computer.

Then the Feds have a press conference patting themselves on the back
'cause they the protected us rubes from another domestic terrorist.

Sometimes they screw up and don't stop their patsy in time. Incompetence? Or maybe something more sinister?

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8001	Re: I'm surprised that the shooting has not been a Reply #7 - 05/19/22 at 09:25:49 "Sometimes they screw up and don't stop their patsy in time. Incompetence? Or maybe something more sinister?" I think if it were more sinister it wouldn't be so obvious.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: I'm surprised that the shooting has not been a Reply #8 - 05/19/22 at 12:50:43 So,because the obviousness of the evil, it's NOT evil.. Got it.. That's like saying the video evidence of Joe the Pedo has no value, because nobody would pinch a little girls nipple if it was on vidya..
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Reply #9 - 05/19/22 at 13:04:19

So,because the obviousness of the evil, it's NOT evil..

Got it..

No, its an example of an inability to have an adult conversation if somebody has a small difference of opinion on one section of a topic.

Billy says he likes the Red Shirt.

Bobby says, I think that one shirt is more Orange.

JoG says, Oh so you think all shirts are Blue!

"That's like saying the video evidence of Joe the Pedo has no value, because nobody would pinch a little girls nipple if it was on vidya.."

No, its like saying the video of Joe the Pedo is not likely part of an overall scheme but is in itself just a video of Joe the Pedo. I never said anything about value or percentage of value. You are just over-reacting as usual.

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Re: I'm surprised that the shooting has not been a
Reply #10 - 05/19/22 at 13:31:56

Eegore wrote on 05/19/22 at 09:25:49:

"... I think if it were more sinister it wouldn't be so obvious.

While some people choose to defend the FBI.

I choose to believe, “…Incompetence…”,
with a great big helping of, Arrogance.

There is a reason many say FBI stands for F ucking Bumbling Idiots.

It is the FBI’s GOAL,
to ‘have a press conference patting themselves on the back
'cause they the protected us rubes from another domestic terrorist.’

It is very transparent that the FBI, ‘helps, leads, colludes, provides resources’,
JUST so they can, ‘catch a person’, and then pat themselves on the back.
Starting with J. Edger.

Good when infiltrating a ‘ring’ of criminals.
Bad when you Create a criminal.

The Arrogance ,
“FBI can do no wrong”
Is like the EPA,
Fine a Farmer 20,000,000.00 for creating a wildlife wetland, because they didn’t say to the EPA, PURITY PLEASE, first.
And the EPA, KILLING rivers. and saying, (to the like), ‘oops’.

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Re: I'm surprised that the shooting has not been a
Reply #11 - 05/19/22 at 13:40:27

Eegore wrote on 05/19/22 at 13:04:19:

"...
Billy says he likes the Red Shirt.

Bobby says, I think that one shirt is more Orange.

JoG says, Oh so you think all shirts are Blue! ..."

WOW, and you describe,
"A bank robber used a Red Car.
Then Banning Red Cars,
will stop all Bank Robberies"
as 'bad' ????????

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Reply #12 - 05/19/22 at 17:43:53

"While some people choose to defend the FBI."

Since thinking that a sinister plot would not be so obvious is equal to defending the FBI?

I never said anything defending the FBI. I said only that a "more" sinister plot is most likely not so obvious. This is not equal to saying anything good in any way about the FBI.

Billy says the FBI' strategy is more sinister.

Bobby says he thinks a more sinister action is most likely not so obvious.

MnSpring says Bobby is defending the FBI.

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Reply #13 - 05/20/22 at 07:38:34

Eegore wrote on 05/19/22 at 17:43:53:

"... I said only that a "more" sinister plot is most likely not so obvious. ...".

The point of the original post was the FBI,
routinely incites …, …, …, …, ,
And screws up.

Like the, ‘Umbrella Man’ at the start of the Floyd riots.
Some thought he was, RW, some LW, some local police,
and most thought a FBI agent, because it was covered up so fast.
(A person, ‘Umbrella Man’, was observed by several people, which his/her actions were the catalyst for the outrageous widespread total destruction of a thriving place in Mpls.)

“… I never said anything defending the FBI.
I said only that a "more" sinister plot is most likely not so obvious….”

The FBI inciting and screwing up,
is, a sinister plot.

Again, the FBI is supposed to,
catch criminals.
NOT MAKE Them.

I believe saying,
“…I think if it were more sinister it wouldn't be so obvious….”
Is, ’defending’.

And the reason for the FBI not to cover some things up is,
they believe they are so powerful,
that a finger to the lips,
is all that is needed.

That would be, Arrogance.

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Re: I'm surprised that the shooting has not been a
Reply #14 - 05/20/22 at 09:46:55

"The point of the original post was the FBI,
routinely incites …, …, …, …, ,
And screws up.
"

I agree.

"I believe saying,
“…I think if it were more sinister it wouldn't be so obvious….”
Is, ’defending’."

I don't see how this is defending anything. I agreed, multiple times now, that the FBI is not appropriately handling investigations. By thinking that the definitions of "more" and "sinister" most likely do not apply to this specific assessment, it does not equal saying the FBI is doing anything at all correct, that they are good, or placing any value of any kind on any subject.

Defending the FBI, to me, would be things like saying it is a necessary step, or always an accident, or a conspiracy etc. none of which I have said. I just think if the FBI is going to get someone to shoot up a grocery store they would utilize less obvious strategy than having a complete record of their actions made public.

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