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Re: It's gonna be the longest
Reply #15 - 05/11/22 at 10:19:04
 
Eegore wrote on 05/10/22 at 20:18:47:
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 Why is it ok for anti-vaccine to lie about numbers but not ok for pro-vaccine?


 Why is it ok for government, media, CDC/WHO/States CDC, some Doctors, and (so called) Experts,
    lie about numbers, for pro-vaccine?

But not ok,
for people to point that out,
with proof ?

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Re: It's gonna be the longest
Reply #16 - 05/11/22 at 10:26:31
 
Eegore wrote on 05/10/22 at 20:18:47:
"...  I am recommending One word be removed.  ..."

Remove one word ?
That will stop the assault on Freedom by the UL DFI FDS  Socialists ?

Which word will be the next one.
(Which surely will fix any problems)

Oh wait, that didn't do it ether.
Let's remove/change another,
   and another,
        and another,
           and another.





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Re: It's gonna be the longest
Reply #17 - 05/11/22 at 11:52:43
 
"Why is it ok for government, media, CDC/WHO/States CDC, some Doctors, and (so called) Experts,
   lie about numbers, for pro-vaccine?

But not ok,
for people to point that out,
with proof ?"



 Good question !
You want an answer.
I would like an answer to this;

Why is it ok for anti-vaccine to lie about numbers but not ok for pro-vaccine?


 The problem is that, on here, some people "that point that out", with "proof", do not even read their proof and tell people that actually do, that they are wrong.  How would they know if they won't read the proof they present or the proof anyone else presents?   The answer usually given is "observed reality."

 Lies come from all sides, not just the side that you don't like.  According to "proof" provided here there should be about 300,000 dead kids in TX in 2021.  Is there any "proof" or even evidence of this that can be "observed"?

 Is there any evidence 2000 soldiers per day are diagnosed with neurological disabilities?  Is that being "observed" anywhere?
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Reply #18 - 05/11/22 at 11:56:30
 
"Remove one word ?
That will stop the assault on Freedom by the UL DFI FDS  Socialists ?
"


 No.  It will stop the most successful strategies.  Losing and then complaining society needs to be educated better is still losing.  

 Either way, according to you, this is a gun control measure because any change to the 2nd Amendment can only be gun control.  Which makes zero sense.
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Reply #19 - 05/12/22 at 17:42:45
 
Eegore wrote on 05/11/22 at 11:56:30:
" ... Which makes zero sense ..."
Your opinion, not mine.

"... It will stop the most successful strategies ..." 

Nope.  It will Not stop any attempts at removing Freedom.
   Removing a word will not 'stop' a Strategy.
      (successful or not)

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Reply #20 - 05/13/22 at 08:04:43
 

"Nope.  It will Not stop any attempts at removing Freedom."

 I agree I never said attempts will stop.

 I said the most successful strategies.  If "militia" is the term that turns the table on multiple gun law decisions, and "militia" is removed, how will the next attempt use a word that no longer exists in the Amendment?

 Either way, according to you, attempting to alter the 2nd Amendment in any way can only be a gun-control measure.  It is not possible to make any change of any kind to the 2nd Amendment that is pro-gun.  This, to me, makes no sense.


 
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Reply #21 - 05/13/22 at 08:09:18
 
I agree. The amendment could be rewritten and absolutely eliminate any wiggle room to infringe on our rights. I wonder IF that happened, would it not also reinforce the others?
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Reply #22 - 05/13/22 at 08:12:33
 
Your position supporting it is encouraging and makes me want to try harder to figure out who you really are. Honestly, I Don't get you,, it just seems like you are so determined to believe and defend what comes out of the government,, and then you keep standing tall on the second.. You confuse me,
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Reply #23 - 05/13/22 at 09:01:22
 
"Honestly, I Don't get you,, it just seems like you are so determined to believe and defend what comes out of the government,, and then you keep standing tall on the second.. You confuse me,"

 It's because you ignore when I agree with you, and by my interpretation, over-react when I challenge one section in the numbers you present as proof.  You don't even look at your own evidence so how would you know?

 I literally said multiple times the CDC numbers are wrong and helped build a more accurate double counting system in CO because of this, and you still claim I say CDC numbers are correct.  Again I ask: Why did I challenge something I think is correct?

 When I don't think 300,000 kids died in TX, or that 2000 soldiers per day are disabled that is not equal to saying I think the Military never lies and kids don't die from vaccines.  Your sources, in some cases, are also lying, those numbers are way too high to be true.  I use the word "also" because I am acknowledging that other sources lie too.

 Have you observed anything in TX that indicates 300,000 kids died in 2021?
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Re: It's gonna be the longest
Reply #24 - 05/13/22 at 10:54:38
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/13/22 at 08:12:33:
Your position supporting it is encouraging and makes me want to try harder to figure out who you really are. Honestly, I Don't get you,, it just seems like you are so determined to believe and defend what comes out of the government,, and then you keep standing tall on the second.. You confuse me,

JoG,.. I can't believe you haven't figured out yet that Eegore is secretly really Obama.. Grin
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Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
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Re: It's gonna be the longest
Reply #25 - 05/13/22 at 13:47:42
 
Bullshit, E is much smarter than Obama
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Reply #26 - 05/13/22 at 13:55:15
 

 To be fair I left out that my communication can be confusing at times.  What I say out loud, or how I hear it in my head doesn't always translate over to a forum post well, so that doesn't help things.
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Reply #27 - 05/13/22 at 18:04:55
 
Eegore wrote on 05/13/22 at 08:04:43:
"...and "militia" is removed, ..."  

Very long time ago.
I and the family was watching the Ed Sullivan show.
People spinning plates, dogs running through hoops, and someone with lipstick on his hand pretending his hand could talk.

My older brother handed me a can of peanuts, said; ‘open them, have some’.
I did, a ’snake’ jumped out.
Everyone had a good laugh, including me.
Then I examined the can and spring, ‘snake’, and preceded to stuff it back in.
                I Couldn’t.
I wasn’t strong enough then to get the last bit back in,
I need help from my brother.

It is the same as the 2nd.
               Open it up,
and you will NEVER
get all the important stuff back in.


(Now is the time for the SPIN,
                  after all,
could be a ‘red’ car around the corner)
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Re: It's gonna be the longest
Reply #28 - 05/13/22 at 19:59:43
 

"It is the same as the 2nd.
              Open it up,
and you will NEVER
get all the important stuff back in.
"

 It doesn't matter anyway since according to your assessment any change can only be for gun control.  The 2nd Amendment can never have a proposed alteration that is from gun freedom organizations, etc.

 This, to me, makes no sense.
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Reply #29 - 05/14/22 at 10:45:22
 
Eegore wrote on 05/13/22 at 19:59:43:
"...   The 2nd Amendment can never have a proposed alteration that is from gun freedom organizations, etc. ..."

Have not heard of any from, REAL, ‘gun freedom organizations’.
Lots of FAKE gun organizations,
who have a documented record of ,’saying’, something,
yet do the complete opposite, are chiming in.

Those are the,  “… etc …”

Those are the organizations that will succeed in putting the words.
Can, Could, Possibly, Maybe, etc, etc, etc in.

Kinna like the, ‘Liberal Gun Club’ in Calf.
They love guns.
As long as it is a ‘correct’ gun,
has a ‘correct’ stock, for-end, barrel, accessories,
installed the ‘correct’ way, with the ‘correct’ number of them.
And it is stored, transported, shot, cleaned, the ‘correct’ way.
One also needs to use the ‘correct’ ammunition,
the ‘correct’ targets, at the ‘correct’ distance.
Not forgetting to hold the gun the ‘correct’ way.


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