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Reply #60 - 01/02/22 at 03:49:12
 
 Based off the NCAA running stats, the US Department of Education funding, and the National Federation of State High School Sports the average number of high school students that play football is approximately 1,049,079.

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/research/pro_beyond/2020RES_ProbabilityBeyon...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/267955/participation-in-us-high-school-fo...

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2019/1/30/18202661/recru...

https://leagueside.com/chances-of-going-pro/


 Taking this average it would be safe to say 104 Thousand high school students were killed or hospitalized by the vaccine in 2021 for cardiac issues if 1 in 10 had dangerous or deadly side-effects.  If each kid was vaccinated.

 If even half those got vaccinated, where are all these dead and hospitalized kids?  Where are their families and schools?  Why aren't they saying anything?

 This is only football by the way.  If we take on all high school athletics we are looking at just about 8 Million.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/probability-competing-beyond-hi...

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/statistics-on-school-sports-how-many-studen...

https://yrbs-explorer.services.cdc.gov/#/graphs?questionCode=H82&topicCode=C0...


 So out of 8 Million young athletes we should expect to see 8 Hundred thousand high school kids dead or hospitalized by the vaccine in 2021 from heart issues if the math claimed by the creator of mRNA is correct.

 Where are even a fraction of these 800,000 young athletes with heart problems?  Around Nov 4, 2021 kids 12-17 reached a 50% vaccination rate.

 That's 2,191 kids per day.  Shouldn't we be seeing at least 100 per day if only a small percentage were vaccinated?
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Reply #61 - 01/02/22 at 04:08:36
 
The same methodology that tells me I’m not at a huge risk from Covid tells me 10% are not experiencing serious and long lasting side affects from the vaccines. If Covid were as serious as they try to make it out for my age group I would know a dozen people who have died but I don’t know any. Not a single one. Likewise I know hundreds of people at work, I correspond with them almost daily, I don’t know a single one who has had a significant side effect where they had to been hospitalized from the vaccine. So while I agree that these vaccines have a higher side effect than say the flu vaccine, I don’t think it’s significant enough assuming you’re relatively healthy person to be concerned with taking the vaccine. Sure, freak things happen. They do. But not 10%.

I remember years and years ago arguing with somebody who was steadfast on the popular claim that 10% of the population is gay. That could not possibly be true I said. And of course it’s not true. It’s about 1 to 2%. At most but the 10% number is still tossed about all the time and accepted  by many as truth but it’s not.

Eegore’s example of high school athletes is a good one. There’s no way around that. It’s the same thing with Covid. Very, very few of what I would call normal healthy individuals experience serious Covid symptoms, very few. Fauci and other leaders try to make it out as if 20 or 30% of the population is it serious risk because they are caught up in it; they can’t see the forest for the trees.  But the actual Covid numbers have always told otherwise. 10% of those who take the vaccine do not experience serious health effects including death. That’s simply not possible. My own personal observation tells me, without a doubt,  that’s not true and the same observations tell me people between 20 and 60 and in normal health have a little to fear from Covid.
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Reply #62 - 01/02/22 at 06:34:00
 
"Fauci and other leaders try to make it out as if 20 or 30% of the population is it serious risk because they are caught up in it; they can’t see the forest for the trees."

 I agree.  When I was working at the CO ICC we had to continually push the multiple verification standards.  So many people were in there dealing with the logistics of Covid impact that they were just accepting stats without verification.  It was easy to do when you are there for the specific reason of providing support.

 The most bang for our buck so to speak came from weeding out the garbage from the useable information.  Getting a report from a College that they had 50% infection rates is useless.  That claim needs to be verified with actual medical records, test outcomes, patient/non-patient outcomes or anyone can just toss any number they want at you and you spend all your time chasing ghosts.

 Accuracy gets things done.  Everything else just lets you feel good when you go home for the day.
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Reply #63 - 01/04/22 at 14:24:55
 

 Ok so after sitting in stat counts and briefings for the past 14 hours I can say that I think the best course of action for Omicron is similar to what Webstermark presented.  

 Definitely keep it away from the elderly.  Screenings/masks at any location they congregate.  Keep it away from people with COPD.  Pneumonia and Omicron is shown to be very deadly so that is a major risk factor.

 Don't worry about it too much in regards to the healthy.  If anything I will go with the predictions made when we brought samples back from China back in 19.  Omicron was basically predicted - a subsequent fast spreader that is less lethal by the epidemiologists.  There was some debate as to the impact of herd-immunity and if it's even plausible regarding SARS, but the idea of a fast spreading low impact variant was considered a given by the professionals.

 It could actually be beneficial considering the SARS-COV-2 antibodies burn off so fast they are practically worthless after a short-time.  

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Reply #64 - 01/05/22 at 07:13:29
 

 Also there is this going on all over the place:

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/daily-hospitalization-summary
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Reply #65 - 01/05/22 at 09:04:07
 
This bull$hit is never going away….
Now we have something called flurona.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/01/05/flu-and-covid-flurona-r...
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Reply #66 - 01/05/22 at 09:28:46
 

 Co-infections ae pretty common.  We had them last year but nobody tossed the "Flurona" name on it I guess.
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Reply #67 - 01/05/22 at 09:40:54
 
It’s the blue team trying to advance the ball down the field. The red team on defense is fighting against the blue team plus the refs who are basically blue players in striped shirts with whistles. It looked like the red team was slowing down the blue team’s advance but blue called their new play named flurona and are now picking up yards with it.
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Reply #68 - 01/06/22 at 23:48:57
 
My wife has commented several times about
There was no flu season
Now it's
Confections are common...

Not around here.
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Reply #69 - 01/07/22 at 05:30:15
 

 I've heard there was no flu season a lot as well, but when I check the diagnosis and treatment databases there were tons of flu cases.

 Even after factoring in co-infections there were indeed fewer diagnosed flu cases, but the analysis clearly indicates those are most likely flu cases misdiagnosed as C-19.

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