Eegore wrote on 12/08/21 at 14:32:27: I am just saying that kids will put their phones away and listen to teachers today about as much as kids stopped writing notes and goofing off in class 30 years ago.
Oh yeah of course every generation is worse than the one before it. Kids in my day were much more respectful... said everyone since schools started.
Every generation dragged us straight to the Gates of Hayull!!
There's always been good kids and hoodlums. And all those in between. To be fair, there are schools in places where the kids are straight up dangerous. My eighth grade science teacher's husband worked at Blackshear high school in Odessa. A kid stabbed him in the forehead and ran the blade down his face. His glasses saved his eye.
I don't know the percentages, but the feeling I get is being a teacher is harder now than ever. I worked for a man who offered to put me through Texas Tech IF I would be a teacher. Thunk on it for two days and told him I didn't think I could do that. Teachers don't have enough autonomy and they don't have enough authority.
Is school a hot mess? I think so, in some places. The kids are living in neighborhoods. If the neighborhood is made up of hoods,guess who is in the class.
America Had a top notch education system. Now we are Number One in what we spend and, IIRC, around 23rd in results. You can debate the how and why, but I remember some of the Steps to Improve the System. They made adjustments, testing showed the Improvements were steps in the wrong direction. Rather than going back to what had been working they made other Adjustments.
At some point
Stupidity Stops being cover for Sabotage.
Charlotte Iserbyt, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America
Back in the day Latin and Greek were taught in high school.
Now they teach remedial English in college.
It's going downhill.
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