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Reply #30 - 01/18/22 at 08:47:19
 
Aren't you glad that Trump is complying with everything?
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Reply #31 - 01/18/22 at 11:04:04
 
Do you dream of Trump?
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Reply #32 - 01/18/22 at 11:04:09
 
Refresh my Memory.

How many people did Trump,
     personally     KILL
By being totally, irresponsible ?

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Reply #33 - 01/18/22 at 12:59:31
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/18/22 at 11:04:09:
Refresh my Memory.

How many people did Trump,
     personally     KILL
By being totally, irresponsible ?


Innumerable.  
1/6 riot, maskless rallies, drone strikes in Syria,...
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Reply #34 - 01/18/22 at 21:02:48
 
I personally think this one is a bit of a hard one as I had read somewhere that the armorer was completely incompetent and that that gun had been recorded as having misfired twice before.
For whatever reason the armorer, whos sole job is to see to the safety and handling of all firearms on set (what should have been their only job but I believe they where also the prop master as well or something like that)
As far as the actor is concerned they are being handed a SAFE PROP and not a loaded deadly weapon, but at the same time, I can't help but feel it is the responsibility of everyone that touched that gun to have checked it so they could pass it on with first-hand knowledge of if it is loaded or not.
One thing I was always taught about guns is never point a gun at anything you don't want dead


Sorry if I got the facts wrong I haven't looked into it too much





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Reply #35 - 01/18/22 at 21:13:57
 
"One thing I was always taught about guns is never point a gun at anything you don't want dead"

 This is good gun handling safety but rarely applies on film.  People point guns at others constantly on film sets.  Can you imagine trying to make a war film and nobody points a gun at another person?  It could be done through creative camera angles and dummy guns but why make all that extra work for yourself.
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Reply #36 - 01/18/22 at 21:19:59
 
That's a very good point, I know that actors are told to point next to the target rather than at it when they can but as you say that's just not possible a lot of the time.
Having said that it leads me to ask why are they even using real guns in the first place? that's just insane to me
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Reply #37 - 01/19/22 at 07:13:44
 
 Money.

 I have a cousin that has worked in film production for years and like most things she indicates cost is why certain, especially antique weapons are used instead of "prop" guns.  It's more efficient in some cases, and only the word "some" with the exemption off all other words, that in some cases it is more efficient to double-use a weapon.  The same weapon purchase can be used to fire blanks, and up close for acting shots.

 I also know an armorer that worked on larger war film sets and he said it's easier/cost effective to get historical functioning guns than to have props made at the scale he needed and then having post-production CGI every action and firing effect.  The availability was mostly due to reenactment groups by his assessment.

 I wouldn't be surprised if there was an eventual prop-only requirement in Hollywood considering the alternatives available at this time.
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Reply #38 - 01/19/22 at 22:09:55
 
Eegore wrote on 01/19/22 at 07:13:44:
 Money.


Makes sense but I think you are right, with things like this happening and the ease and accessibility to CGI (just look at youtube) it will be interesting how long its aloud to continue
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Reply #39 - 01/20/22 at 07:17:40
 
A person, is totally irresponsible, and a Lier,
and simply because, he is the Darling of the,
Liberal, Fairy Dust Sprinkling, gun hating Socialists.
He will get off with a ‘hand slap’.

It is all those, ‘other people’ who were in the chain.
(Including the Manufacture of the Ammunition) fault.

And the result is:
“…  how long its aloud to continue …”

WOW, Like someone having a RED car,
driving over someone.
And that someone Sued the Supplier of the paint, tires, gas, oil, etc, etc, etc, on that car.
Instead of the DRIVER, who was the One, Final, Last, person who drove that car and ran over someone.

Eegore, have your students, do the math,
and figure the % of firearms used in Movies/TV,
that there was NO Indent, and ones that were.

Would be interesting to know how many “0’s”, in front of the number.
My guess would be 6.
0.0000001 %

It is clear, the answer is, to BAN, firearms from use in movie/TV making,
when a tiny, tiny, minuscule, % of people are killed by a firearm in movie/TV making.

Makes absolutely perfect sense to ban the thing, then punish the person who did it.
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Reply #40 - 01/20/22 at 07:57:02
 
Billynoneck wrote on 01/18/22 at 21:02:48:
" ... but at the same time, I can't help but feel it is the responsibility of everyone that touched that gun to have checked it so they could pass it on with first-hand knowledge of if it is loaded or not ..."

And the 'last' person in that chain,
Was NOT RESPONSIBLE !

(according to the, 'last' person in that chain)

And the 'last' person in that chain,
will NOT be punished,
for NOT DOING,
what he was, TAUGHT/TOLD/SHOWN,
TO DO.





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Reply #41 - 01/20/22 at 10:51:30
 
yeah not what I was meaning, I think the last person in the chain is just as responsible as the first. my apologies if i didn't make that clear
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Reply #42 - 01/20/22 at 14:28:22
 
Responsibility is on whoever is holding it. Nobody, not my friend who is awesome with guns,nobody,, nobody can hand me a gun and tell me it's Safe without ME having a look. We simply don't handle weapons in a crowd. I can't imagine having a gun on a set with people all around and NOT inspecting it. Not being Qualified to open it and inspect what it is loaded with and know what they do is not an excuse. Get educated or get someone to hold your hand and point out exactly what the gun has in it and show you it's Safe.

The use of the word
Misfire
Is confusing. To me that says the trigger was pulled and nothing happened.
I'm thinking that to them it's saying it fired unexpectedly.

But, that is just guessing.
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Reply #43 - 01/20/22 at 20:42:48
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/20/22 at 14:28:22:
Responsibility is on whoever is holding it. Nobody, not my friend who is awesome with guns,nobody,, nobody can hand me a gun and tell me it's Safe without ME having a look. We simply don't handle weapons in a crowd. I can't imagine having a gun on a set with people all around and NOT inspecting it. Not being Qualified to open it and inspect what it is loaded with and know what they do is not an excuse. Get educated or get someone to hold your hand and point out exactly what the gun has in it and show you it's Safe.

The use of the word
Misfire
Is confusing. To me that says the trigger was pulled and nothing happened.
I'm thinking that to them it's saying it fired unexpectedly.

But, that is just guessing.


I 100% agree that responsibility is on the person holding the weapon. but I don't believe that removes responsibility from the person whose job it is to make sure the weapon is safe, IMO both are to blame for what happened.


Yes sorry, the wrong phrase on my part, "fired unexpectedly" is better
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Reply #44 - 01/20/22 at 22:51:31
 
And I didn't express my whole thought either.
The armorer Is responsible, also.
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