He RAN FROM THEM.

And it's his fault How?


 If I choose to go into a bar with a gun to help them stay safe due to expected violence, without their permission or knowledge, and 3 guys chase me out of the bar, I still made a choice to break the law.  No matter how many cops give me water, I still chose to break those laws.

All 4 of us made choices we should be held accountable for but since I had the gun they died.  My choice didn't bring imminent harm upon myself, but I did take a calculated risk.  I knew I couldn't legally carry a gun there, and that there was violence.  I would expect to be held accountable for that choice in some way.


"You chase a guy who has a gun??
And get shot..
Duude,, that is on You."

 I agree.  If I don't run after guys with guns I greatly reduce my chances of being shot by those guys.

 

You were fine with Ashley Babbit getting shot for climbing through a window so surely a pervert hitting someone is fair game right?

WebsterMark wrote on 11/14/21 at 16:34:02:

If someone is coming thru your bedroom window, you have the right to defend yourself.
On a public street, it's little different.
The very act of illegal entry is a threat.
The act of being on a street is not.

Watching the prosecution closing.  
Compelling argument.
I think Kyle may be in trouble.

Serowbot wrote on 11/15/21 at 09:57:23:


A 17 year old lies about being an EMT to impress people and that’s your argument to convict him from staying alive?

was on a plane but listened to much of the defense closing argument. I chuckled out loud with the Defense Attorney called these guys heroes and that they were trying to rush in to stop an active shooter.

The defense attorney is going now, he's from nearby Racine, and he's destroying the Defense argument. In fact he said the Defense Attorney flat out lied in his closing.

I've been involved in two large mass incidents and a few smaller ones where there was a lot of violent actions going on and things happen quickly and you are in your own little world. During a high school basketball game, multiple fans of the other team came out of the stands during a shoving incident on the court and a full scale fight broke out. The whole thing went on for 3 or 4 minutes but it simultaneously felt like only a couple seconds or for hours at the same time. Weird. If that were filmed and broken down frame by frame, you could paint any individual event into however you want it.

"I've been involved in two large mass incidents and a few smaller ones where there was a lot of violent actions going on and things happen quickly and you are in your own little world. During a high school basketball game, multiple fans of the other team came out of the stands during a shoving incident on the court and a full scale fight broke out. The whole thing went on for 3 or 4 minutes but it simultaneously felt like only a couple seconds or for hours at the same time. Weird. If that were filmed and broken down frame by frame, you could paint any individual event into however you want it."


 That's a pretty good description.  Time means nothing in high volatility events but if you are just watching it's all pretty simple.

I’ve never been on a jury so I can only imagine what goes on but if they take some time without the emotion from the attorneys present, and they analyze the evidence in front of them, along with the closing arguments, I can’t believe that they would convict Rittenhouse. Remember, they have to convict on the first charge, Rosenblum, or all the other charges don’t come in to play at all. I’m not sure of the legal matter behind that but that’s what the defense attorney said and the prosecutor did not object so I assume that’s the case. If they find self-defense in that case everything else disappears. This is the guy that was chasing him and throwing something at him right before a guy behind him fired a gun. I can’t see how they fault Rittenhouse.