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11/03/21 at 05:29:33
 
Like The Fonz, the Democrats have jumped the shark. They’re so isolated inside their bubble, they thought  the majority of the people think it’s fine for some boy to put on a skirt, call himself a girl and go into a bathroom. They think it’s fine to give hundreds of thousands of dollars to illegal immigrants. They think spending 3 1/2 trillion dollars on a whole bunch of crap and then call everything infrastructure is OK, they actually thought people would agree with defunding the police and sending a little college-age social workers and the violence situations would be a good idea.

Now, here’s the challenge for the Republicans. Trump did his job. He showed we didn’t have to drive the country off a cliff. And now he needs to step back. He needs to help local races where needed but the idea of running for the top office again is ridiculous.

Otherwise, come next year instead of getting rid of all the socialist communist scum from Washington like my local representative Cori Bush, we’ll do the opposite. Let’s hope somebody gets to Donald and convinces him what’s really going on. My gut tells me he will realize that. He has a very unique ability to see past all the garbage and into a broad scattering of the demographics and he knew we could win. Now he should know he can’t win again. It’s over.
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Reply #1 - 11/03/21 at 11:48:12
 
Is it just me? Is it True that it doesn't matter WHERE oil comes from ? I mean, if we produce the oil and refine it and run our cars on it, doesn't that actually cause less Global Warming, BS, than getting OPEC to produce it and Ship it to us, and Then we burn it?

Why did the left cheer when Biden cut the collective throats of our petroleum industry workers by shutting down the pipeline and cancelling drilling contracts?
Loving the pain at the pump? Have they no understanding of how those paychecks filter through local economies? I heard truck drivers with high school diplomas were making over $80,000.00. They were buying homes, cars,everything successful people buy. GONE,,

Opportunity to earn that money is not just around every corner.

Let's Go, BRANDON!!
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Is it just me? Is it True that it doesn't matter WHERE oil comes from ? I mean, if we produce the oil and refine it and run our cars on it, doesn't that actually cause less Global Warming, BS, than getting OPEC to produce it and Ship it to us, and Then we burn it?


 Well the argument is to not use Oil at all.  So yeah a good compromise is to mitigate unnecessary waste by drilling in the US by the US, but that would mean compromise.
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Reply #3 - 11/03/21 at 13:49:50
 
Huhh? I'm not tracking with your.
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Reply #4 - 11/03/21 at 14:50:21
 

 You ask if we produce and refine the oil ourselves wouldn't it cause less carbon emission than getting OPEC to send it from foreign sources.

 Yes.

 But the global warming argument is to not use our oil, or their oil.  No oil.

 What you ask would mean the "no oil" crowd would have to compromise and use oil to the best of our ability.
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Reply #5 - 11/03/21 at 16:26:58
 
You missed my point.
Biden shut OUR economy down by killing the pipeline and cancelling drilling contracts.
Because
GW.
Then he went begging OPEC to increase production and supply America.
We WERE, for a short time, energy independent.
But That was Bad because
Trump.

But begging for oil from foreign suppliers is Sooo presidential.

You Biden lovers.. Phhhht!

I hope you get it, good and hard.
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Reply #6 - 11/03/21 at 18:59:59
 

 Ahh ok I see.

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Reply #7 - 11/04/21 at 00:52:10
 
What? Trump supporters were treated so nice?
Have you been to town?
Buy groceries or gas? Did you not see what he did to the petroleum industry?

Who voted for him and thought he was going to keep the good policies Trump had working For America?
You like having the government scream covid, covid, covid and import illegal aliens who aren't required to be vaccinated WHILE they are doing their best to mandate it for us,AFTER saying that wouldn't happen?

Yeah,, good and Damm hard,,stupid should hurt.
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Reply #8 - 11/04/21 at 05:27:00
 
 They never said they wouldn't mandate vaccines, they said they wouldn't require it for all US citizens.  Are you required to get one?

 Yes I get there is manipulation and coercion, but if you choose to use the word "mandate" I will address the word "mandate" and state that you are not mandated to get a vaccine.  You are not mandated to get a vaccine.

 
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Reply #9 - 11/04/21 at 08:04:06
 
Eegore wrote on 11/04/21 at 05:27:00:
 "... They never said they wouldn't mandate vaccines,
they said they wouldn't require it for all US citizens ..."  

Please explain the difference between the words;

            'Mandate' and 'Require'

When those words reference something you 'must' do.


     "... Are you required to get one? ..."
       
In MANY cases the answer is a resounding YES.





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Reply #10 - 11/04/21 at 08:24:24
 

Mandate: An authoritative command especially a formal order from a superior court or official to an inferior one.  An authorization to act given to a representative accepted the mandate of the people.

Require: To specify as compulsory.



"... Are you required to get one? ..."
     
In MANY cases the answer is a resounding YES.


 JoG is claiming "they" as in the US government, is attempting to mandate a vaccine for "us" and I interpret that to mean all US citizens.  I am addressing that and only that and no other issue.


 So are you a US citizen?

 Are you required or mandated to get a vaccine?

 Is there any legal ramifications that result in financial penalty or incarceration related specifically to a refusal to get vaccinated implemented by the US or any State government and only the US and State governments and no other entity of any other kind?

 Is every US citizen required or mandated or any other English word that is synonymous with the words "mandate or "require" to get a vaccine?
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Reply #11 - 11/04/21 at 09:13:04
 
Eegore wrote on 11/04/21 at 08:24:24:
 "... So are you a US citizen? ..."


Yes

"... Are you required or mandated to get a vaccine?.."

In many, Many cases, YES !


"... Is there any legal ramifications that result in financial penalty ... "

Yes,

"...  Is every US citizen required or mandated or any other English word that is synonymous with the words "mandate or "require" to get a vaccine?  ..."

Yes and No.
If you live in the boondocks, No.
If you work for most Government agencies, YES.
If you work for private companies that the Government tell, 'you must', YES.

Did ALL, airline companies decide that a ,'mask' is required to fly domestically, ALL at the same time ?

Or did the Government tell them to do that ?

Is  'Mush-For-Brains trying to 'enforce' ALL 100+  business to ?
DID, NYC, 'enforce' all first responder to ?



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... Is there any legal ramifications that result in financial penalty ... "

Yes,



 Where?  I am unaware of anyone fined or incarcerated by the local or Federal government because they have not gotten a vaccine.  



 Is  'Mush-For-Brains trying to 'enforce' ALL 100+  business to ?
DID, NYC, 'enforce' all first responder to



 Would this mean every US citizen, as I clarified I interpreted JoG to be exemplifying?  No.

 I already acknowledged coercion.  I am saying that 100% US citizens are not mandated or required or any other English word synonymous with "mandate" or "require" by the US Federal or State Governments to have a vaccine.

 You claim there are legal ramifications that result in financial penalty or incarceration related specifically to a refusal to get vaccinated implemented by the US or any State government and only the US and State governments and no other entity of any other kind.

 Can you provide an example?
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Reply #13 - 11/04/21 at 11:04:00
 
Eegore wrote on 11/04/21 at 05:27:00:
 They never said they wouldn't mandate vaccines, they said they wouldn't require it for all US citizens.  Are you required to get one?

 Yes I get there is manipulation and coercion, but if you choose to use the word "mandate" I will address the word "mandate" and state that you are not mandated to get a vaccine.  You are not mandated to get a vaccine.

 


YesE, Biden and Kamal A Each stated the Federal government is not in the business of mandating vaccines.
Words I listened to on the radio.

Naah, no mandate, unless you don't want to get fired.
If it's NOT mandatory, it's What
What is NOT Mandatory?
Gee,Wally,, is that a trick question? I'm pretty sure it's voluntary, right, Wally?


So,, if it's VOLUNTARY then it is YOUR CHOICE, with no consequences regardless of what you do.

So, when consequences land on someone for not doing something
It's MANDATORY.

And yes, Biden is doing his best to force vaccines on everyone,
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Reply #14 - 11/04/21 at 11:26:27
 
 I agree, and expected the coercion for vaccines but I don't like to exaggerate and say it's being forced, required, mandated or any other similar word on US citizens if the question at hand was if the US Government would mandate all Americans get a vaccine.

 No there is no mandate that all Americans get a vaccine.  What should be happening instead of arguing semantics over the answer to the question is acknowledging the question was flawed.

 If the question was something like "Will the Federal Government implement policies that impact the livelihoods of Americans based on whether they have the vaccine or not?" then sure we can sit here and say they lied.

But that wasn't the question, so complaining that they lied is fundamentally flawed since the answer statement from Biden/Psaki/Harris is true based off the question that was actually asked.  They should have been asked about initiatives, mandates for Federal employees/military or tax incentives for businesses that require vaccinations.
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