WebsterMark wrote on 11/02/21 at 18:19:22:

Sorry,.. you didn't get the joke.
Did you buy into my "Birds aren't Real" post too?...

"You’re telling me the solar array that powers the mill in Pueblo Colorado has some type of adjoining energy storage system where energy is stored at peak hours and then used in off-peak hours to power the mill with no interruption and with only 5 to 10% electricity coming from the grid? Is that what you’re saying?"


 It has an adjoining storage system that is not on-site, but as you have stated the energy storage is part of the problem.  The total MW hour storage is unknown to me at this time but I will find out when I can.  It's not enough to run the Mill multiple days for sure.

 My understanding is that the system at this time is working like any other grid-connected system.  It exceeds demand during the day and the excess is essentially purchased by the Power Company.  They store that extra energy if it's not being used by other consumers on the grid.  To my knowledge at this time there is not separate lines for solar isolated power as there isn't a need for it.

 So I agree that articles saying the solar array powers the Mill are not exactly transparent, as up to 10% is provided by coal, and there isn't enough solar power storage to do something like run the mill several days with no alternative power input.  But with minimal and available increase in the array the power created could power the Mill 100%.  For how long at any one time is then the next question.

 An example I use is showing the surface area of all those panels over all those acres of land.  Then taking that same square footage of coal power they can supply an entire city, and then some, while solar powers one customer.  When we add more space for the power storage the space gets even larger, but with each passing year this gets mitigated.  Battery storage is continually getting more efficient.

   

It's not reasonable to expect to eliminate ICE engines and go with Ecars. Power to Charge them has to come from somewhere. What happens when it's freezing and the interstate turns into a parking lot? Stuck with a battery that already took you to work and then to the store and Now you're in a several hours long parking lot.. Running the heater..
The wrecked doesn't have a five gallon jug of electricity.
Not saying the technology Won't exist, but this fevered push, trying to Force it into existence isn't healthy for the economy or the lives of the people.
Calm DOWN, people. I know, free market pressures, people chasing profits by producing products that are Desirable that people will buy isn't what you want. You want to Force it on everyone. I know, it's
For our own good..
It's tyranny

"What, did you, 'Infer', something I said ?
Because I did NOT say that !"

 It was my interpretation, I already stated you "did not say that" or to be specific, "exactly that" so lets include my entire sentence:

You have called me a liar multiple times.  Not the exact word "liar" but have indicated I am not being truthful multiple times.

 So no I am not saying you called me specifically the word "liar" and only the word "liar", in exclusivity, with the exemption of all other known words.

 You indicated I was being untruthful, and to me that is equal to being called a liar.  Inferring I won't pay you money I said I would, saying it sounds like multiple people use this account, things like that, to me, is equivalent to calling me a liar without using exactly those 4 letters in exactly that sequence to form exactly that word.

I watched music go from records to eight tracks, then cassette ,,it was small and worked great,, I figured that was it.. Then geniuses figured out how to make a plastic and foil sammich and make a laser that would fit in tiny little clamshell and aim and read,, Ohh MuGAAWD! And That was IT! Nobody can beat that!
Aaand now a gizmo so small that losing it in a wrinkle in a pocket is possible and it has capacity for more than my whole album collection.
We've seen battrees go from alkaline to NiCad, and on and on. We can't know what some genius might invent.
I don't think it's smart to push too hard. Wouldn't it just suck to build up infrastructure to deal with a type of battree, only to discover a new battree that can't use That type of charge setup?
Quit trying to shove it down our throat, let it develop.

 This is a good article.  I try to explain the Betz and Shockley Queisser limits to people and they shrug it off.

 Like I said, we can run a Mill off solar but that same physical space run by coal can power a whole city.  Now if we start placing panels on every roof we would eventually meet a point where solar can keep up and the space used for the power plant operations could hold batteries.  But this means tons of vertical placement.

Presented in a kinda' fun way..
Will Today's Electric Cars Soon Be OBSOLETE?