That a whole bunch of what should be obvious safety protocols were not observed, is already obvious before any inquiry. However, reporting is quickly coming out that an assistant director handed the gun and said it was safe whether that meant a blank or nothing in the chamber I don't know, but there is an implication that Baldwin is blameless in this. But it doesn't look that way to me.

It is obviously a real gun and Baldwin would have had training with it to get used to it and how it kicks back. Bottom line is someone hands Baldwin a gun and says it's safe to shoot, would you just fire it at someone?

If someone handed you a gun and said the chamber is empty would you point it at yourself and fire? I don't think so.

Not only did Baldwin not check the chamber which the person pulling the trigger would be responsible for ultimately, but he didn't even need to fire it at anyone if he was checking it. Seeing as he shot the cinematographer he wasn't shooting as part of a scene, he was just testing the gun.

Someone said it's safe, so he tests it by firing it at someone. Baldwin has to take most of the responsibility here if not the blame.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/alec-baldwin-fired-prop-gun-that-killed-crew...

"... If someone handed you a gun and said the chamber is empty would you point it at yourself and fire? ..."

Baldwin 100% at fault.

No one ever told you;
  “Don’t drive with your eyes closed”
But you  just KNEW,  not to.

Just as anyone KNOWS,
the RESPONSIBILITY
rests on the shoulders of the the last person to hold a firearm,
and pull the trigger.

Well unless one is a totally Arrogant, AZZ HOLE.
Who hates firearms,
  (Unless they can put money in his pocket)
Hates people that use firearms,
  (evidenced by previous remarks/statements)

Many people, ‘culpable’,
But the LAST PERSON,
the person RESPONSIBLE.
IS THE PERSON,
that committed MURDER.

A person, that hates guns.
That hates people that use them.
Whose is the the Ultimate Person
        RESPONSIBLE
For killing ANOTHER HUMAN.

    That person will not spend one second in jail.

It is a perfect example of the ultimate.
 "I say one thing, and do another"
   “Do as I say, not as I do”
       "I can, you can't"

Ultra, Liberal,
 Dumb F UCKING Idiot,
    Fairy Dust Sprinkling,
         SOCIALIST !

Serowbot wrote on 10/24/21 at 09:06:59:

And that would be wrong.

If it is to be a shot, at a person, then the, 'blank' protocol is in in play.
And the actor is SUPPOSE TO, follow that protocol.

When the actor is to do a, 'point at camera', shot.
AND THEIR IS A PERSON, behind the camera
you are pointing a gun at them.
Plain and simple.
The Actor, BALDWIN,
Is Responsible.

The person doing the shooting is responsible !
Not someone who hands you something and says, 'go ahead'.

Is the armor responsible,
sure, they have culpability in the shooting.

The SHOOTER,
   BALDWIN,
He is the one responsible for HIS actions.

Unless, one believes that Harvey Weinstein's underwear was to tight,
and that is why he had to take it off in front of young girls.

Or that Garrison Keillor, consoling a woman by touching her on her back,
    was SEXUAL HARASSMENT!

Or that Franklin's grabbing a woman's boobs,
and PHOTOGRAPHED doing it,
was NOT, SEXUAL HARASSMENT!

           Or Clinton,
getting a BJ in the oval office,
    was ALL, 'her' fault !

"... The criminal justice system also considers
individuals who cause the deaths of other people

through negligence or recklessness to be criminals.

Under the criminal justice system,
these criminals are charged with manslaughter. ..."







 

Was the shooting part of a scene in the movie or was he screwing around?

Regardless, Baldwin is a terrific actor, one of my favorites. He’s in a lot of great movies and iconic scenes. But he’s a hateful little pr!ck so the only good thing to come out of this tragedy is this POS will disappear from the public scene  from now on. Imagine his comments if Dana Loesch had accidentally shot someone while filming a commercial about a gun.

Mn,.. let's say you are the armorer on a movie set, and responsible for the safety of all weapons in the film.
A shootout is being prepared and there are 11 people assigned a total of 17 guns and rifles by you.
Do you expect or want these people to open the guns and inspect them after you have certified them to be safe?  Many of these actors may have never fired a real gun in their lives and never want to.

To put it another way,... would you trust Alec Baldwin to reinspect a gun you just certified as safe?
Are you sure he can tell the difference between a blank and a wadcutter?

@eegore, "
If it's empty he can't shoot the blanks.  Am I missing something here?

I'm meaning empty of live rounds, when handing a real gun that is supposed to be cold, to an actor, the actor should want to eyeball either a gun with empty chambers, for post effects shooting, or eyeball the gun being loaded with actual blanks. Depends on how much one take personal responsibility for one's actions.


Meanwhile Don Junior shows his class...

https://shopdonjr.com/collections/mens-apparel/products/guns-dont-kill-people...

...and as far as "never point a gun"... movies are the exception.
How many times have you seen an actor come up behind someone and point a gun to his back?
So common it's a cliche'... or to his head.
This is why they have armorers...

Today I saw an interview of an American movie set armorer describing a previous movie set tragedy

There are three classes of ammunition. Dummy rounds  Blank rounds and Live rounds.   Dummy rounds have no powder in them but have shot inside instead so by shaking them it can be identified as a dummy round
They have a projectile
These are used when the rounds are visible such as in a belt or revolver
Blank rounds have powder but no projectile and are used when flash and noise are required

Live rounds are not permitted on movie sets in his experience

The tragedy occurred because a dummy round was used that had a primer in the case which was not supposed to be there
The primer had enough force to push the projectile into the barrel where it lodged
The weapon was next used the next day with a blank round which pushed the projectile out of the barrel killing the actor in front
Several failures here The primer should not have been there The barrel was not checked for being clear both by armorer and shooter