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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28701 Tucson Az Gender:	An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust? 10/15/21 at 10:33:26 WTF is that????... An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust? Texas school system presents new perspective on diversity of opinion. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-do-you-oppose-the-holocaust-texas-schoo...
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9384 Minn Gender:	Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust? Reply #1 - 10/15/21 at 10:59:14 And, ‘MUSH-FOR-BRAINS’ said What about it ???????
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Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust?
Reply #2 - 10/15/21 at 11:21:01

I would want to know if the teacher was referring to Holocaust Denial which is a very real thing and should in my opinion be presented. Just like flat-earth should be introduced, not factually, but as part of modern information mechanism.

Of course parents will complain. When you have to deal with people who think a rainbow flag can turn their kid gay pretty much any topic of any kind will upset someone.

I am in discussion to restart a youth shop program (auto/wood/welding/electronics) and one of the concerns is how much time will be spent on electric vehicles because parents - not parents of the kids in the program - but other parents are concerned that it will "glamorize the internal combustion engine". My answer is they will get as much interaction with electric vehicles as can be safely and accurately be provided.

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Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust?
Reply #3 - 10/15/21 at 12:38:01

Eegore wrote on 10/15/21 at 11:21:01:

Just like flat-earth should be introduced, not factually, but as part of modern information mechanism.

Really?... Do we really need to teach children that there are idiots in the world?...
One, I think they already know that,... and two, I don't think they needed to be taught that.
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Reply #4 - 10/15/21 at 13:07:36

"Really?... Do we really need to teach children that there are idiots in the world?...
One, I think they already know that,... and two, I don't think they needed to be taught that."

Educating how misinformation works is important.

I am not saying we should teach how flat-Earth theory works, but explain that it exists, and is growing in popularity. Then let them apply some of the experiments and math that very obviously proves the Earth can not be flat.

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Reply #6 - 10/15/21 at 14:10:40

It's absolutely growing. I've been to two of the international Flat earth conferences, first in Denver, and after that enlightening experience I had to attend the next one in Dallas. The second one almost doubled in size. Admittedly a low number of around 600 - 650, but still that's a lot in one year.

Of course people like my younger cousins fabricate fake Government and NASA documents that they release to Flat-Earthers and that doesn't help matters. The largest takeaways for me are that the UN somehow has ships constantly circling the disk blocking people from reaching Antarctica, and that the every single ship captain and pilot on the planet are in on it to help NASA or whoever make billions.

In either case, due to YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, etc. etc. it is growing as people are very willing to accept things without evidence, especially if they haven't grown up realizing how monetization of online content works.

Hop on YouTube, type in "flat earth lie" and tell me if you think it might be an upward trend.

This one is interesting too:

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2017/11/28/americas-flat-earth-movem...

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Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust?
Reply #7 - 10/15/21 at 15:23:14

Serowbot wrote on 10/15/21 at 10:33:26:

WTF is that????... Huh

An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust? Texas school system presents new perspective on diversity of opinion.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-do-you-oppose-the-holocaust-texas-schoo...

In a country where men can have babies and next year is always the year when climate change strikes us for real, science has clearly left the building so why not history? We already started that with 1619.

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Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust?
Reply #8 - 10/15/21 at 15:28:48

‘…Flat Earth growing…’

Why not ?
People believe;
That FL would be under water, 20 years ago.
That a Electric car is Free to run.
That oil pipelines are more of a hazard than the same oil traveling on RR cars.
That a son has to atone for the sins of his Father, and his father, and his father etc. etc. etc.
That tearing down a Statue will change history.
That a person, with a certain color skin is better than another person.
That a China did not manufacture a virus to control the world.
That Stealing and Destroying is Peaceful.
That wearing a mask will stop a virus, when the box the mask came in said it will not.
That giving up a Freedom will make you more secure.

And that a Mush For Brains, who cannot even wipe the $hit off his own Azz, can be elected as a POTUS.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8397	Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust? Reply #9 - 10/15/21 at 16:37:16 And that assaulting someone for saying they are teaching children to murder is a reasonable response.
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9384 Minn Gender:	Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust? Reply #10 - 10/15/21 at 17:45:17 Eegore wrote on 10/15/21 at 16:37:16: *And that assaulting someone for saying they are teaching children to murder is a reasonable response.* Please explain, in detail.
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Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust?
Reply #11 - 10/15/21 at 20:44:07

"Please explain,
in detail."

A quick outline, and a reference so it can be read in full. My understanding is you feel it is a reasonable response to physically assault Hovis because you perceive his opinion to be a "total insult" and as such equal to spitting in your face. Which as I said is fine, it just doesn't make sense to me, much like your list above are things that don't make sense.

I also do things that don't make sense.

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MnSpring:

If I ever met the person, Hovis, I believe his face would rapidly meet with my fist.
After he said, 'I teach little kits how to KILL',
after I mentioned I have been teaching Firearms Safety Training
(then for 34 years).

Eegore:

So you would only be teaching people how to punch people in the face for having an opinion you don't like.

MnSpring:

"Nop, I disagree, highly, with people, yet never would resort to physical means.

Until someone walked up to me, called me a, ..., ..., ..., ..., then spit in my face.
Yea, I would most probably succumb to using a fist,
and not be a little puss ey like,
Uygur, Obama, Holder, Frankin, Ellesion, pee in my pants,
then run away and hide under the nearest skirt."

Eegore:

I am missing the part where Hovis is spitting in your face or otherwise committing to a form of physical contact.

Sounds like your fist will rapidly meet his face based exclusively off of his opinion. So will you "never" resort to physical violence, or will you punch a guy in the face for saying something? Nobody can do both.

MnSpring:

I'll explain it for you.
Someone telling me:
'I teach little kits to KILL'
When I am teaching them firearm, SAFETY.

Is the same as spitting in my face.

Eegore:

"I understand where you may perceive it that way but in the physical world we all live in nobody actually spit in your face. For instance there would be no legal charges against Hovis for making you mad. Observed reality would indicate no spit was on your face."

MnSpring response:

Eegore wrote on 03/29/19 at 09:39:26:
to say you would never assault anyone you disagree with is contradictory don't you think?

Nop, it's not.
Not assaulting someone that one disagrees with,
is entirely different than assaulting a person,
for a total insult.

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Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust?
Reply #12 - 10/16/21 at 07:22:05

Great, Thanks for looking that up,
and supplying that information.

Just so you know,
I stand by my statement of:
" If I ever met the person, Hovis, I believe his face would rapidly meet with my fist.
After he said, 'I teach little kits how to KILL',
after I mentioned I have been teaching Firearms Safety Training "
(then for 34 years).

Because:
" Until someone walked up to me, called me a, ..., ..., ..., ..., then spit in my face.
Yea, I would most probably succumb to using a fist,
and not be a little puss ey like,
Uygur, Obama, Holder, Frankin, Ellesion, pee in my pants,
then run away and hide under the nearest skirt."

And:
" I'll explain it for you.
Someone telling me:
'I teach little kits to KILL'
When I am teaching them firearm, SAFETY.
Is the same as spitting in my face."

Their is a difference betyween today's, Mush-For-Brains POS. POTUS
saying: Well, Um, Ya know, Could be, Well Possibly, etc. etc. etc.
(And Bot’s protection of a Ultra UL, DFI FDS Socialist, saying no one can call her a certain name)

And a former POTUS saying:
If do this,
We WILL Do That,
End of discussion.

One has to know, which side of the Street to stand on.
Not Waffle, back and forth !

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Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust?
Reply #13 - 10/16/21 at 10:07:03

MnSpring wrote on 10/16/21 at 07:22:05:

" I'll explain it for you.
Someone telling me:
'I teach little kits to KILL'
When I am teaching them firearm, SAFETY.
Is the same as spitting in my face."

...and I imagine if you were to physically attack a person for whatever they said,... you would never be allowed to train people in gun safety again,... especially not children.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9384 Minn Gender:	Re: An ‘opposing’ view on the Holocaust? Reply #14 - 10/16/21 at 17:11:17 Serowbot wrote on 10/16/21 at 10:07:03: " ... attack a person for whatever they said,... you would never be allowed to train people in gun safety again, ... " Maybe, Maybe not ! LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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