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Reply #15 - 09/22/21 at 13:44:19
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/22/21 at 09:58:05:
" ...
How little the inconvenience of a ... "

Isnt that from Mao Zedong’s ‘little red book’ ?


Read this slow, carefully, each word.
Then, re-read it !
Which Works  Better?

Those that do not learn from History,
     WILL repeat the mistakes !


GOVERNOR BRADFORD'S history of the Plymouth Bay Colony is a story that deserves to be far better known, particularly in an age that has acquired a mania for socialism and Communism, regards them as "progressive”,  and that they represent; "the wave of the future."

“… Most of us have forgotten that when the Pilgrim Fathers landed on the shores of Massachusetts they established a Communist system. Out of their common product and storehouse they set up a system of rationing, though it came to "but a quarter of a pound of bread a day to each person." Even when harvest came, "it arose to but a little." A vicious circle seemed to set in. The people complained that they were too weak from want of food to tend the crops as they should. Deeply religious though they were, they took to stealing from each other. "So as it well appeared," writes Governor Bradford, "that famine must still insue the next year allso, if not some way prevented."

So the colonists, he continues, "begane to thinke how they might raise as much corne as they could, and obtaine a beter crope than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in miserie. At length [in 1623] after much debate of things, the Gov. (with the advise of the cheefest amongest them) gave way that they should set corne every man for his owne perticuier, and in that regard trust to them selves... And so assigned to every family a parcell of land...

"This had very good success; for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corne was planted than other waise would have bene by any means the Gov. or any other could use, and saved him a great deall of trouble, and gave farr better contente.

"The women now wente willingly into the feild, and tooke their litle-ons with them to set corne, which before would aledg weakness, and inabilitie; whom to have compelled would have bene thought great tiranie and oppression.

"The experience that was had in this commone course and condition, tried sundrie years, and that amongst godly and sober men, may well evince the vanitie of that conceite of Platos and other ancients, applauded by some of later times;-that the taking away of propertie, and bringing in communitie into a comone wealth, would make them happy and florishing; as if they were wiser than God. For this comunitie (so farr as it was) was found to breed much confusion and discontent, and retard much imployment that would have been to their benefite and comforte.

"For the yong-men that were most able and title for labour and service did repine that they should spend their time and streingth to worke for other mens wives and children, with out any recompense. The strong, or man of parts, had no more in devission of victails and cloaths, than he that was weake and not able to doe a quarter the other could; this was thought injuestice...

"And for men's wives to be commanded to doe servise for other men, as dressing their meate, washing their cloaths, etc., they deemed it a kind of slaverie, neither could many husbands well brooke it...

"By this time harvest was come, and instead of famine, now God gave them plentie, and the face of things was changed, to the rejoysing of the harts of many, for which they blessed God. And the effect of their particuler [private] planting was well seene, for all had, one way and other, pretty well to bring the year aboute, and some of the abler sorte and more industrious had to spare, and sell to others, so as any generall wante or famine hath not been amongest them since to this day."

And from Captain John Smith's account, we learn of similar experiences in Virginia:

"When our people were fed out of the common store, and laboured jointly together, glad was he could slip from his labour, or slumber over his taske he cared not how, nay, the most honest among them would hardly take so much true paines in a weeke, as now for themselves they will doe in a day: neither cared they for the increase, presuming that howsoever the harvest prospered, the generall store must maintaine them, so that wee reaped not so much Corne from the labours of thirtie, as now three or foure doe provide for themselves."


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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #16 - 09/22/21 at 13:49:05
 
https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-covid-no-lockdown-strategy-failed-high...
Sweden has also recorded around 145 COVID-19 deaths for every 100,000 people — around three times more than Denmark, eight times more than Finland, and nearly 10 times more than Norway.

Beautiful place, Sweden...  and I think they have more sense of community than here.  They would likely follow suggested guidelines more without the need for mandates.
Still they didn't fair as well as other Nordic countries.
Generally.
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Reply #17 - 09/22/21 at 14:50:47
 
What happened?


https://fee.org/articles/daily-covid-deaths-in-sweden-hit-zero-as-other-nations-
brace-for-more-lockdowns/

How's Israel doing?
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Reply #18 - 09/22/21 at 16:02:12
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/22/21 at 13:49:05:
https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-covid-no-lockdown-strategy-failed-high...
Sweden has also recorded around 145 COVID-19 deaths for every 100,000 people — around three times more than Denmark, eight times more than Finland, and nearly 10 times more than Norway.

Beautiful place, Sweden...  and I think they have more sense of community than here.  They would likely follow suggested guidelines more without the need for mandates.
Still they didn't fair as well as other Nordic countries.
Generally.


They’ll tell you that’s because they foolishly took on a ridiculous number of migrants. Crime has been skyrocketing and they are not very happy with what they did.

And yes they will follow suggestions because they are far more focused on health. But one way to look at that it’s because they’re very much ungodly, high percentage of atheists. Atheist are almost by definition selfish. So they worry too much about themselves.
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Reply #19 - 09/22/21 at 16:19:52
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/22/21 at 16:02:12:
And yes they will follow suggestions because they are far more focused on health. But one way to look at that it’s because they’re very much ungodly, high percentage of atheists. Atheist are almost by definition selfish. So they worry too much about themselves.

Do you find it ironic that I'm arguing to protect children bu getting jabbed and masking up, and you're arguing against it?
I know I do... Grin
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Reply #20 - 09/22/21 at 18:21:49
 
I’m not arguing to NOT protect children. You’re pretending vaccinating young children and forcing them to wear masks come with no risks which isn’t true. My poor little granddaughter who loves talking and loves people wears a oxygen starving, spit adsorbing mask which does absolutely nothing. There’s no science to back that up but as usual, leftist ignore science. It’s ridiculous.
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Reply #21 - 09/22/21 at 18:32:09
 
Well,, I found this today..
Not sure what number I would put on it, but the advertised stats are probably crap.

https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/study-governments-own-data-reveals-that-at-lea
st-150000-probably-dead-in-u-s-following-covid-19-vaccines/
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Reply #22 - 09/23/21 at 09:40:25
 
Follow the bolony
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Reply #23 - 09/23/21 at 10:21:18
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/22/21 at 18:32:09:
Well,, I found this today..
Not sure what number I would put on it, but the advertised stats are probably crap.

https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/study-governments-own-data-reveals-that-at-lea
st-150000-probably-dead-in-u-s-following-covid-19-vaccines/


That doesn’t seem remotely possible. If that were true I would know someone who died after getting the vaccine or I would know people who have close friends relatives who died after getting the vaccine. 150 thousand is a lot of people.
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Reply #24 - 09/23/21 at 10:28:51
 
As I said
I'm not buying the
Official numbah
Nor am I ready to agree with this.
The
Died from covid numbers seemed inflated
The died from Making you safe numbers aren't looking accurate.

The vaccinated with covid does not make me think good things.
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Reply #25 - 09/23/21 at 16:24:00
 
But to be fair, the Covid deaths are dramatically inflated as well. Maybe the 150k vaccinated deaths is inflated by the same proportion as Covid deaths? Who knows.
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Reply #26 - 09/23/21 at 17:26:39
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/23/21 at 09:40:25:
Follow the bolony


So would that be all the PEOPLE,
that STAYED home, and GOT more MONEY,
NOT WORKING,  THAN WORKING ?


Would that be all the people that said:
‘Cough, Cough, Cough,’

Would that be all the people who knew they could NOT go to their local small town hardware store/lumberyard,
but knew they could go to a Big Box Store, and do that, ‘Honey Do project’,
while getting paid MORE, to, “”””Sit at home “””.

Would that be the people you are talking about ?


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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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