I am not winning. I'm not finding the article or the video of the FDA hours long discussion. Someone either is determined to protect us from the Misinformation of The Actual Video of the conference of the people who made the decision to Not support the booster or I'm just not finding it.

I'm in the
JoG can't find it camp,because I know me.

It's not exactly what I had, but it's better than nothing.
It has a link to the video and some time in notes to get into to the applicable places, but I'm not seeing exactly what I want here.


https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/09/fda_panel_member_on_covid_va...

Consider the percentage of people who Get covid.
Then apply the survivability numbers.

Now look at the numbers who took the shot.
The percentage of Negative Reactions applied to All Those people results in
A program that
Is a failure and
Should be stopped.

"Simple.

All independent ‘agents/researchers/Doctors/Nurses/etc’,
who offer  contrary opinions,
on the SAME raw data."

 You mean to tell me you think over one hundred million people have died in the US from vaccines and it is all being covered up at this level of efficiency?

 Not one Heretic is saying a word about this?

 2 to 1 death ratio and of just the hundreds of people I know that got the vaccine, not one died.  Considering they all had less than 35% chance of living they must be lucky to know me.

I think 50 years old is the cut off based on the graphs in the charts that I’ve seen. My opinion is if you’re over 50 and not had Covid, you should get the vaccine in almost all cases, of course there’s a couple medical reasons not to but they’re far and few between. If you had Covid and recovered, I don’t see to need to get the vaccine but again if you’re over 50 in relatively good health, I would anyway. If you’re under 50 and in good health and do not have a history of getting sick all the time I can understand you not taking the vaccine, but again, I would anyway. If you’re a child under 15, no way in hell I would take the vaccine.

Our entire vaccine issue revolves around the Democrats using it as a weapon against Trump and then switching gears as if nothing had happened and pretending as if they were in favor of vaccines for Covid all along. It’s the red team versus blue team. That’s all that’s causing this.

I had a trip scheduled yesterday, I was at the airport, 10 minutes from getting on a plane, when I got a call the job has been canceled because someone had gotten sick. The entire factory was shortstaffed because of the Covid cases running rampant. It’s in the south in a very rural area and vaccination rates are probably below 20%.

I think it would’ve been a good thing months ago for Trump to spend his own money and do a PSA showing charts and graphs and pointing out the honest to God risk factors of the vaccine because there are honest to God risk factors. But he could’ve laid out all the facts and told people that if you fit the very broad criteria of low risk factors, that you should go get vaccinated. I think that would’ve made a fairly significant difference.

But as long as Democrats are in power we’re always going to have a shortage of those getting vaccinated because Democrats use Covid to advance power grab. Puddin Head’s  ridiculous speech a couple of weeks ago when he made the comment his patience is getting thin only strengthen the objection some people have even stronger. No one who was on the fence about the vaccine decided well I guess I’ll go get the shot now because Puddin Head is getting impatient. Quite the opposite, probably thousands and thousands where leaning towards getting it but once a stupid silly old mush headed man said that, they said no, F U Gramps. So the red team fights back in one of the only ways they can which is they refuse to get vaccinated and they suffer the consequences. It’s very shortsighted thinking. just because the Democrats suck and are awful people, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t get vaccinated because you should.

Having said all that, if you don’t want to take the vaccine, I’ve got no problem with it and I don’t think there should be any restrictions on you whatsoever.

Yes, there are breakthrough cases in vaccinated people. I just read a summary of a CDC report which indicates most of the breakthrough cases are in older people with comorbidities the same as we would expect to see an unvaccinated people.

Yes, the media is underreporting breakthrough cases and they’re under reporting tragic cases of people who were vaccinated but contracted Covid and died while they are dramatically over reporting cases of people who were outspoken against Covid vaccines, then contracted Covid and died.

All that proves is the media as usual is taking whatever side helps the Democratic politicians.

I view taking the vaccine as a risk calculation, no different then we all make every time we throw a leg across the motorcycle. Ride a motorcycle and you assume a higher risk than not riding motorcycle. Riding a motorcycle without a helmet and you assume a higher risk than with the helmet. Sure, people who wear all the gear all the time still die in motorcycle accidents and people who were nothing but shorts and flip-flops ride their entire lives injury free.

I still ride motorcycles but I wear a helmet. I have a very low risk of Covid I believe but I took the vaccination. For me, the risk of the vaccination was very very low so it made sense.

But like Jog, I don’t implicitly trust what the media reports. And with regard to vaccination, I know they’re going to skewer their reporting to help their democratic allies. I know that upfront. But I also know a couple of people at the CDC and I also read these reports because they’re somewhat related to my job so I feel like I made the right risk decision. But that’s my decision, I have no intention of making a decision for you.

If you have not had Covid, I would get the vaccination as I think there’s very little risk. But if I’m sitting at a bar having a drink next to you, I’m not worried about it.

You’ve been referring to right wing conservatives as knuckle dragging Neanderthals for years. Now you think we’re going to have a sense of community with you? Not gonna happen. You created the environment for this current situation to flourish so you could get rid of Trump so now you’re going to have to live with what you built. That’s the reality.

Has a single child ever shut down school? I don’t mean quarantine rules rules closed the whole school down because someone tested positive I mean did a child infect a high percentage of other children in a school? I’d like to know if that ever actually happened. Again don’t talk about quarantine rules,  did children get sick, and I mean sick not testing positive, I mean sick to the point where they couldn’t go to school or even had to be hospitalized. Did that ever really happen?

No, if it did or didn’t happen is the point. It’s the whole point.

How do you not see that?

Did they need to be? Probably not. I believe the number is four times more children died of the flu the year before Covid then died of Covid in a year. (I’m sure Eegore will check me on that)  So does that mean when Covid is all done,  anytime a kid gets the flu, the school closes? Why not?

I don’t think you can use how schools, governments and work places responded to the pandemic as evidence of the severity of the pandemic. I was always bothered by the fact Home Depot stayed open but a mom and pop hardware store was forced to close. All those teachers who stayed home were able to shop at Home Depot and finished that home project they’ve been putting off.

I work for Swedish company so we all talk to people from Sweden and they did not respond the way we responded and by any measure, they turned out better. But to be fair, in my trips to Sweden, I’ve never seen a fat, disgusting Swede. I swear if you get too fat, they’d throw you out of the country!

But back to my point, it does matter what the real infection rates are with children in school. It absolutely matters. We’ve clearly gone overboard.

But none of that should impact someone’s decision to get a vaccine. As I’ve said, you should get the vaccine but if you don’t I’ll sit down in a bar next to you and have a beer.