It's a good question.

 Vaccine typically means that it stimulates the production of antibodies but no longer means using the actual disease itself or causative agent.  Synthetics are now vaccines because they cause the body to create antibodies.

 Effectiveness I would say doesn't change the term of vaccine.  For instance we can have a vaccine that is 1% effective.  It's useless, but still a vaccine.

But I take therapeutics in the form of anti-inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofen before activities create a response. I take another therapeutic in the form of steroid shots in my knee to prevent swelling from arthritis.

The difference between a vaccine and therapeutic is getting pretty narrow.

A good topic to read up on.

I get what webby is saying... this vaccine doesn't prevent covid, only a specific response to it.
That's why herd immunity isn't going to happen like we expect.  Because covid 19 is still raging whether you're vaccinated or not.  to those that are, it's just another flu.

I just came across this photo the other day.
The last human to contract smallpox.
October 1977. Somalia
Pretty amazing to think that was not so long ago.


I think the horror of what that disease looked like went a long way in encouraging vaccine acceptance.
Covid 19 doesn't present the same visual shock value.

WebsterMark wrote on 08/14/21 at 10:20:38:

That should have made the Trumpettes eager to vax.

How do you suppose the leftist media that Trumpettes ignore, carries such influence with them?
Nonsense... Trump wouldn't mask, poopoo'ed and downplayed,... and the Trumpettes followed like lemmings.

"Smallpox had an astronomical death rate compare to Covid, over 30%.  There was no political gain to be made."

 Considering the last case in the US was in 1949 I would say "mainstream media" has changed since then.  But there was political gain to a degree, just the mediums were different.

 Also there was the The Anti Vaccination Society of America that was founded in 1879.  Then the New England Anti Compulsory Vaccination League of 1882 and also the Anti-vaccination League of New York City in 1885 started.

 They used the media of the time to combat the pro-vaccination media of the time.  Now could someone literally make up complete garbage out of their own head and "share" it to millions in a second?  No.  Would they have?  Yes.

 Another factor is that Smallpox was a very well known disease, unlike SARS-COV-02 which popped up unpredictably.  It's easier to weaponize something new than something with a documented history.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/14/21 at 14:57:58:


The minorities are not getting the jab like you seem to think.
Nor are PHD types.
And how do people deal with having conflicting truths in their brains?

If it's True that Trump supporters are just cult members who follow their leader then how is it also true that every single one of them I know are not taking the jab?
Something you believe is incorrect.

I WONDER where some people got their idea to say no to the jab.
I'm pretty sure I remember people saying things like
This is Trump's shot. I'm not taking it.

Covid is such a problem that Biden opens the border and then ships illegals into the country,,