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07/20/21 at 16:35:59
 
40% of US citizens believe that their elections were not only fraudulent, but that the election was stolen in the same way that Russia or Iran will never hold free and fair elections.

If these 40% really believe this then they must also believe their country is as corrupt as Russia.

Personally I do not believe that the 40% who believe the fraud, really do believe it. But I guess it's one or the other.
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Re: 40% of American's believe the USA is a sh!thol
Reply #1 - 07/20/21 at 19:44:39
 

 Do you have a reference?
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Reply #2 - 07/21/21 at 05:27:27
 
Our Australian drive-by shooter is probably reposting a joke by Tom Brady when the Patriots visited The White House and he made a joke that made Grandpa Joe chuckle.

Here’s my guess as a frontline soldier and not repeating a joke from 10,000 miles away, that’s more realistic.

I would guess 40% of all actual register and engaged voters would say out loud they do not believe the 2020 election was anywhere close to being “the most secure election in history….”

I would estimate 60% known that’s true, but not all would say it.

Actual registered and engaged voters doesn’t include those who checked a single box on a ballot mailed or handed to them and who could not tell you anything about the candidates other than “Orangeman bad”.
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Reply #3 - 07/21/21 at 07:56:05
 
 Voters who only know "Orangeman good" should also be in the non-engaged voters grouping.

 I would agree with both of you that a number of people that claim they think politics is this, or politics is that, really just want it to be this or that way, but are aware of the inaccuracies.

 I had an old roommate that was anti-taxation.  He went through tons of loopholes, seminars, etc. etc. to get out of paying taxes.  At the time he was pulling in about 3 million a year from his business, so no taxes would be a significant amount.

 The issue was he knew he was just playing games.  Trying to re-interpret laws, create loopholes etc.  For instance he got honorary membership, by paying, into Native American tribes in an attempt to change his race legally.  He would go on about how taxation and credit are illegal by selecting small sections of court cases, but all the while he was fully aware that those sentences didn't apply to his situation.

 His desire to be correct eventually overcame his ability to understand logic and it led him to prison.  
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Reply #4 - 07/21/21 at 08:28:46
 
No one who used either blatantly illegal or even questionable legal actions will ever go to jail for putting Grandpa Joe in office.
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Re: 40% of American's believe the USA is a sh!thol
Reply #5 - 07/21/21 at 09:31:39
 
40% of US citizens believe that their elections were not only fraudulent, but that the election was stolen in the same way that Russia or Iran will never hold free and fair elections.

If these 40% really believe this then they must also believe their country is as corrupt as Russia.

I think for the truth finding you have to be very accurate at what you say. If you say that the usa is a shithole then there would literally be shi t on america and it would be a hole.

I don't doubt that the US government has a lot of corruption.
And I think there are many people who don't doubt it either.
Look at Biden's slips of the tongue, that speaks volumes.

I find it believable that only 40% of Americans see it.
In Russia the situation is better, there they are open about influencing the elections by arresting opponents.

Here it is much less transparent.

And people think they live in a democracy. That's an illusion / veil, that makes them deny reality.

Voters integrity, is very important.
I don't know how much % is a normal deviation from 100% honest.
But not only are there many, many indications that things have gone quite wrong....
there is proof.
And, a lot of evidence has been deleted and that has been proven also.

You can say that you are happy Biden is precident and that your fine whit that. Shure, I bet you are.
But then you know, that your government and you is corrupt. It suits you (this time).

What you underestimate...
is that you've reinforced corruption big time, both outside you and inside you.
Coruption happens quickly. If you are just a little too loyal to someone. Bang, There you go.


This time it isn't as harmless with few consequences as previous times.
There is so much evil going on right now, that any kind of sincerity is worth its weight in gold.
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Re: 40% of American's believe the USA is a sh!thol
Reply #6 - 08/04/21 at 09:49:33
 
 Sleepy Joe is an embarrassment!  America's  going to 'pot.'  Green New Deal?  More Bondage.   The commies are advancing.
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Reply #7 - 08/04/21 at 11:32:26
 
That's down from 60% thinking it's a sh!thole last year...  Grin
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Reply #8 - 08/09/21 at 02:10:59
 
Eegore wrote on 07/20/21 at 19:44:39:
 Do you have a reference?


It may be a 'misleading' number, however it's still a significant number even if reinterpreted.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/06/ted-cruz/ted-cruzs-misleadi...

And the point I am making is that even if it's less than that, it is still indeed a significant proportion of people in what purports to be a democratic model.

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Reply #9 - 08/09/21 at 05:15:53
 
St Louis, Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland, Philly and most major inner cities are $hitholes.! One important feature is common with all. Take a guess.
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Reply #10 - 08/09/21 at 07:49:38
 
So someone can accuse someone else,
of grabbing a boob.
(or rape parities)
With absolutely NO PROOF,
      and all hell breaks out.


Yet another person,
can put together ALL the discrepancies/anomalies,
the % of votes in a district, that suddenly changed,
the wild swings in area trends that occurred in voting.
And it is absolutely, NOTHING !


Rather like a person breaking down a door of a home,
steeling a stack of 100.00 bills,
and nothing is done, because,
(even though the person was clearly seen/identified)
the thief said they did not do it.

Yet, a 'red' law,
where anyone, for any reason can say;
  someone should not have a certain thing.
is a good law.
And everyone should have one.

Ya know, sounds a lot like,
     'Right or Wrong'
is determined if one is a Socialist, of a Communist Country.
Or a a Citizen, of a Democratic Republic of a Free Nation.


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Re: 40% of American's believe the USA is a sh!thol
Reply #11 - 08/09/21 at 09:08:26
 
Yet, a 'red' law,
where anyone, for any reason can say;
 someone should not have a certain thing.
is a good law.
And everyone should have one.



 That's not how Red laws work.  I can't say you should not have a gun because your mailbox is painted the wrong color.



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Re: 40% of American's believe the USA is a sh!thol
Reply #12 - 08/09/21 at 15:19:00
 
Quote:
Eegore wrote on 08/09/21 at 09:08:26:
" ... I can't say you should not have a gun because your mailbox is painted the wrong color.


LOLOLOL
  Most certainly can !
      AND YOU FULL WELL KNOW THAT !
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Re: 40% of American's believe the USA is a sh!thol
Reply #13 - 08/09/21 at 15:53:58
 
LOLOLOL
 Most certainly can !
     AND YOU FULL WELL KNOW THAT !



 I could say it, but no action can be taken.  There are specific guidelines required for Red law actions to take effect.  There is no open-ended law stating any US citizen can report anyone for any reason at all and I think you know that.  

 Obviously reading actual law isn't part of this equation.

 This is nothing more than over-exaggerating a real problem so it sounds worse than it is.  

 
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Reply #14 - 08/10/21 at 09:22:52
 
The thing with MAGA snowflakes is they don't know they're snowflakes.
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