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I have seen changes. I have described them here, and even spent years verifying the information and offered it in the past. No, you have not seen changes. You point out higher yields due to fractional temperature increases in a localize environment. That is not evidence climate change is the most pressing concern on earth.
I am saying that you present "Effect" but won't accept that from others. You want "Cause" as proof. Like your crime example - you see increase in crime and provide zero reference for cause of crime increase. You present only observation of the result. The increase in crime is easily measurable and obvious. There is no similar climate change observation. If there were, I wouldn’t argue.
If somebody else says, I see less crime, you want them to provide a cause for that observation. You won't accept their observation of result.
And now you are even going as far as to say what others see. Are you really going to tell me I don't see climate models being used in agriculture? What would you accept as proof? I can offer the models, the outcomes, video of hydrology testing, results of testing, permits for high altitude readings, results of readings, about 20 direct witnesses of this project, farm yield metrics, statements from owners of those yields, video of those statements, and would even offer direct contact with multiple people involved.
Would that be enough to show that I have indeed seen farming changes due to weather, and that those changes utilize climate modeling, or will you still think I don't see these things?
I think you “see” those things but 1) they were unrecognizable without detail software modeling. 2) are not evidence of anthropogenic climate change.
For the one millionth time, I’m not denying the average global temperature is increasing. I’m saying based on what I read that the 1) increase is minimal, 2) that human impact to that temperature is unknown but likely relatively small, 3) that the benefits to the human race with slightly higher temperatures are ignored and the hazards to the human race are ridiculously overstated for political purposes, 4) became climate change has now become an industry on its own with billions of funds flowing through it, the leading authorities are so heavily invested in its continued viability that I do not believe those given the title of expert in this field by our political and corrupt media outlets.
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