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Matchless G11 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 451 Newfoundland NJ	Re: Presidential AND Christian... Reply #30 - 06/19/21 at 15:55:30 Again, big difference is that slaves are humans. A fetus is not. [/quote] High school biology book says life begins at conception. I guess someone here is science challenged. On can sit here and and claim the sun is made of ice all day. But I believe in objective truth.
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Reply #31 - 06/19/21 at 16:41:53

Matchless G11 wrote on 06/19/21 at 15:55:30:

Again, big difference is that slaves are humans. A fetus is not.

High school biology book says life begins at conception.
I guess someone here is science challenged.

On can sit here and and claim the sun is made of ice all day.

But I believe in objective truth.
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dude, I'm not going to continue to debate on this.

Get it through your skull that right now, abortion is legal.

You don't like it, then work to change it. Don't sit there and tell me I'm wrong for supporting a woman's right to choose, 'cause you ain't gonna change my mind.

And as it is right now, the law is on MY side.... so.... deal

As to the original germ of this thread, Biden continues to show himself more Christian than his predecessor.

Again, deal with it.

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Reply #32 - 06/19/21 at 16:42:46

MnSpring wrote on 06/19/21 at 14:10:38:

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T And T Garage wrote on 06/19/21 at 10:01:37:

You can't kill something that's not technically alive.

Says the UL, DFI, Fairy Dust Sprinkling, Socialists.

And yea at one time it was LEGAL to KILL Slaves.

(No links, just do what tt tells everybody to do)

It's so nice to know that I live in your head rent free!

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Reply #33 - 06/20/21 at 05:59:27

T And T Garage wrote on 06/19/21 at 16:41:53:

Matchless G11 wrote on 06/19/21 at 15:55:30:

Again, big difference is that slaves are humans. A fetus is not.

High school biology book says life begins at conception.
I guess someone here is science challenged.

On can sit here and and claim the sun is made of ice all day.

But I believe in objective truth.

dude, I'm not going to continue to debate on this.

Get it through your skull that right now, abortion is legal.

You don't like it, then work to change it. Don't sit there and tell me I'm wrong for supporting a woman's right to choose, 'cause you ain't gonna change my mind.

And as it is right now, the law is on MY side.... so.... deal

As to the original germ of this thread, Biden continues to show himself more Christian than his predecessor.

Again, deal with it.

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The law maybe on your side but morality and science is not.

I guess am not going to change your mind for you maybe too closed minded.

You never answered my question "Did you look upon you daughter as a parasite?"

Giving up for are you losing the argument?

Most people who are angry over abortion is because they have had one,
or helped to procure one.

Since the first part doesn't apply to you.

I question hypothetically

Someone you know very well may have procured a abortion for a girlfriend and suffers guilt, and cannot get oneself to admit they removed a life from this world.

Do you know that person TT?

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Reply #34 - 06/20/21 at 07:57:20

Matchless G11 wrote on 06/20/21 at 05:59:27:

The law maybe on your side but morality and science is not.

I guess am not going to change your mind for you maybe too closed minded.

You never answered my question "Did you look upon you daughter as a parasite?"

Giving up for are you losing the argument?

Most people who are angry over abortion is because they have had one,
or helped to procure one.

Since the first part doesn't apply to you.

I question hypothetically

Someone you know very well may have procured a abortion for a girlfriend and suffers guilt, and cannot get oneself to admit they removed a life from this world.

Do you know that person TT?

First off, science is all over the place as to when life begins, so you can let that one go.

Second, no, I don't consider any of my children parasites. In my personal al case, we would never have considered abortion under any circumstance. That's me... I can't force my values on others. Each scenario is different. If a woman chooses to have an abortion, that's between her, her doctor and her beliefs/religion/God.

Third, no, I've never been in a situation where I had to support an abortion or enable some woman to have one. No one I know has ever had an abortion.

Fourth, why not get off your sanctimonious high horse and deal with the reality of the world instead of just point out what you think is wrong with other people, huh?

Like I said, this thread isn't about abortion. Debate what a "great" Christian" Bidens predecessor was.... oh yeah, you can't.

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Reply #35 - 06/20/21 at 08:32:12

First off, science is all over the place as to when life begins, so you can let that one go.
No, science is not all over the place. Again, leftist simply lie and pretend the definition of words are different.

Just say you’re okay with someone who is inconvenienced by a pregnancy killing the growing life in them. Just say it.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8398	Re: Presidential AND Christian... Reply #36 - 06/20/21 at 09:43:48 "Most people who are angry over abortion is because they have had one, or helped to procure one." Where did you get these numbers?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28703 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Presidential AND Christian... Reply #37 - 06/20/21 at 09:55:36 Eegore wrote on 06/20/21 at 09:43:48: "Most people who are angry over abortion is because they have had one, or helped to procure one." Where did you get these numbers? Numbers?... What numbers?... Ever wonder how many abortions Trump has paid for?
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Reply #38 - 06/20/21 at 10:03:07

Numbers?... What numbers?...

Ever wonder how many abortions Trump has paid for?

True there aren't "numbers" stated but the claim of majority can be quantified to some degree. I just wonder how this outcome is assessed.

As for Trump, if you are Pro-Trump he never paid for any abortion. If you are Anti-Trump then he paid for at least one.

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Matchless G11 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 451 Newfoundland NJ	Re: Presidential AND Christian... Reply #39 - 06/20/21 at 11:48:20 Eegore wrote on 06/20/21 at 09:43:48: "Most people who are angry over abortion is because they have had one, or helped to procure one." Where did you get these numbers? I have known many people who have worked in post abortion consoling They have told me me the anger is because of guilt over abortion.
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Reply #40 - 06/20/21 at 11:56:31

WebsterMark wrote on 06/20/21 at 08:32:12:

First off, science is all over the place as to when life begins, so you can let that one go.
No, science is not all over the place. Again, leftist simply lie and pretend the definition of words are different.

Just say you’re okay with someone who is inconvenienced by a pregnancy killing the growing life in them. Just say it.

Ambiguous at best on when life begins. You can't sit there and say a group of cells is life. Not even a heartbeat in some cases can be considered "life".

https://slate.com/human-interest/2017/04/when-does-life-begin-outside-the-christ
ian-right-the-answer-is-over-time.html

https://www.swarthmore.edu/news-events/when-does-personhood-begin

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Reply #41 - 06/20/21 at 12:15:58

Third, no, I've never been in a situation where I had to support an abortion or enable some woman to have one. No one I know has ever had an abortion.

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No one you know has had a abortion?
I have known many, The guilt they live with is incredible.
They are not closed minded to the truth.

A girl I dated in high school years later we almost got married. One of her issues was she had abortion in her 20s. One thing she did in dealing with the guilt was to dress as a abortion for Halloween. She took chopped up doll parts and glued them to her clothes and splattered fake blood on herself.

Maybe you could work with some post abortion women and learn some truth.

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Reply #42 - 06/20/21 at 12:19:01

T And T Garage wrote on 06/20/21 at 11:56:31:

WebsterMark wrote on 06/20/21 at 08:32:12:

First off, science is all over the place as to when life begins, so you can let that one go.
No, science is not all over the place. Again, leftist simply lie and pretend the definition of words are different.

Just say you’re okay with someone who is inconvenienced by a pregnancy killing the growing life in them. Just say it.

Ambiguous at best on when life begins. You can't sit there and say a group of cells is life. Not even a heartbeat in some cases can be considered "life".

https://slate.com/human-interest/2017/04/when-does-life-begin-outside-the-christ
ian-right-the-answer-is-over-time.html

https://www.swarthmore.edu/news-events/when-does-personhood-begin

Ambiguous about life?
That is like seeing something in the road that looks like a person and running over he or she, and then saying to the judge "I was not sure so I did not stop."

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Reply #44 - 06/20/21 at 15:20:41

WebsterMark wrote on 06/20/21 at 08:32:12:
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Just say you’re okay with someone who is inconvenienced by a pregnancy killing the growing life in them. Just say it.

First three web sights:
95 (+/-) % of Abortions, ELECTIVE !
(One was even 99.31%)

So for those who stand for, ‘choice’,
it is a 90%+++++,
(legal), choice, to KILL.

So tt and clones, Just SAY it,
Just say you love killing a human,
for convenience sake !

Amazing how the doubling of cells in a human female is declared, by some, Not Life.
Yet the same spend several BILLIONS, and several decades, to find a single cell on another planet, and call it PROOF of Life.

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