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Window into the making of an Insurrectionist
06/11/21 at 07:09:51

The work of understanding what motivates violence, bigotry, hate, and prejudice is no trivial task; as illustrated in this well fleshed out monograph on the path taken by one man- from Colorado to dragging a policeman down the steps of the Capitol - a confluence of conditions, illness, and malign influence contributed to where he ended up.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/06/11/jeffrey-sabol-capitol-riot-...

A vivid reminder that the grievances and acrimony voiced here, on this forum, are largely symptoms of profound damage. Arguing over “reasons” that clutter the surface distract from addressing the vastness of cause lurking below.

The Tall Table is a hamster wheel- climb on, go for a run to nowhere, and be rewarded with poisonous rage pellets, dopamine hits that let the fading feel part of the struggle of life, a self deluded belief of being center stage even as sliding farther and farther from healthy social integration. Creatures of contradiction, rejecting society even while compelled to seek commiseration with a community of strangers. No support group for recovery and redemption, but festering wound where habitual participants come to have their scabs picked open, reinfected.

Better not to respond -just leave, and don’t come back. Maybe try to have a real conversation, face to face with another person, or plant something in the soil that will bring life and joy to everyone, friend and perceived enemy alike, long after you have left the stage. A peach tree might be a good start- most everybody likes a good peach. Or cherries. Build a pond, stock it with fish, and, take comfort in the respite your toil will bring- even if the shade comes long after you are gone.

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Re: Window into the making of an Insurrectionist
Reply #1 - 06/11/21 at 07:40:24

I think the issue that the article fails to address is that the election was fraudulent and as such assaulting police officers is no longer a crime and those officers no longer have the right of having a trial. Private US Citizens now become judge and jury.

By showing up to work that day that cop lost all rights as a human under the US Constitution and associated laws because of the election fraud. The people dragging him down those stairs were simply enforcing the US Constitution, which clearly indicates that assault on other US citizens is fine if they do not agree with your assessment of an election, or maybe they do but are wanting a peaceful solution.

It's called being a Patriot. The guy in this article obviously was within his rights and wasn't trying to flee the country, he wanted to vacation outside of the US, and decided he no longer needed his electronics so he destroyed them in a microwave and tossed his phone over a bridge. This is an exercising of his freedoms awarded to him as a US citizen. Asking his friends to delete any information about his presence at the Capitol is not suspicious. Any Patriot acting within the laws of this country would do the same.

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Re: Window into the making of an Insurrectionist
Reply #2 - 06/11/21 at 08:46:14

Quote:

Mavigogun wrote on 06/11/21 at 07:09:51:

" ... the grievances and acrimony voiced here, on this forum, are largely symptoms of profound damage. ... "

The profound damage is the, propaganda, that;

A protest, is called a riot.

And Riots, where stealing, destruction,
and burning to the ground of whole neighborhoods.

Are called, ‘Peaceful Protests’.

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Re: Window into the making of an Insurrectionist
Reply #3 - 06/11/21 at 08:54:51

A protest, is called a riot.

And Riots, where stealing, destruction,
and burning to the ground of whole neighborhoods.

Are called, ‘Peaceful Protests’.

This is a good point. The issue, to me, is that people want to downplay the violence of those they agree with and exaggerate the violence of those they do not agree with.

It's simpler in the end to just say what actually happened and stop grouping everyone together. For instance the guy in the article supplied. There is video of him, and what he did was protest, then assault someone. Had he not laid hands on somebody he would be a protester that peacefully protested. The person next to him that didn't lay hands on anyone was a peaceful protester.

He was acting within the bounds of the law, then he wasn't.

That's what the video shows, we don't need to make more out of it. We don't need to make less out of it.

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Re: Window into the making of an Insurrectionist
Reply #4 - 06/11/21 at 10:53:47

Eegore wrote on 06/11/21 at 07:40:24:

I think the issue that the article fails to address is that the election was fraudulent and as such assaulting police officers is no longer a crime and those officers no longer have the right of having a trial. Private US Citizens now become judge and jury.

By showing up to work that day that cop lost all rights as a human under the US Constitution and associated laws because of the election fraud. The people dragging him down those stairs were simply enforcing the US Constitution, which clearly indicates that assault on other US citizens is fine if they do not agree with your assessment of an election, or maybe they do but are wanting a peaceful solution.

It's called being a Patriot. The guy in this article obviously was within his rights and wasn't trying to flee the country, he wanted to vacation outside of the US, and decided he no longer needed his electronics so he destroyed them in a microwave and tossed his phone over a bridge. This is an exercising of his freedoms awarded to him as a US citizen. Asking his friends to delete any information about his presence at the Capitol is not suspicious. Any Patriot acting within the laws of this country would do the same.

I love the sarcasm. But sadly, that's the way far too many look at it.

But in the end, I'm with Mavi - I could go for a good peach!

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Re: Window into the making of an Insurrectionist
Reply #5 - 06/12/21 at 04:04:35

A vivid reminder that the grievances and acrimony voiced here, on this forum, are largely symptoms of profound damage. Arguing over “reasons” that clutter the surface distract from addressing the vastness of cause lurking below.

Profound damage? The vastness of cause lurking below? Lighten the hell up Francis. You’re taking this way to seriously. What’s voiced on here is largely symptoms of easy access to devices that allow you a few minutes of entertainment.

From the right side of the political spectrum it’s an opportunity to object to the overwhelming and constant noise coming from the news and entertainment culture. From the left side of the political spectrum it’s an opportunity to reinforce what’s coming from the news and entertainment cultures.

Don’t overthink it and don’t assume for a second you know anything about anyone who regularly post on here. Because you don’t.

I played golf yesterday with the hard-core liberal lefty who is a friend of my sons. We had a blast. We went out afterwards and drank a couple Manhattans.

If you want to psychoanalyze somebody, psychoanalyze yourself.

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