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Reply #15 - 06/08/21 at 14:21:59
 
"So these two killings of a Human baby,
In your world,
are exactly the same.
"

 Incorrect.

 I am talking about the restructuring of how Left or Right wing violence is classified in the documents I referenced.  None of which address abortion in any way.


 As for your examples they clearly are not exactly the same, again something I have not said, one is a potential abortion, one is an actual abortion.  

 In your world are these "exactly the same"?

 48 year old woman hears a loud banging noise and verbal threats at her closed bedroom door, she grabs a shotgun and shoots through the door.  No body is found, no evidence of projectile impact on a human is found.

 A 20 year old woman hears a loud forceful banging noise at her closed bedroom door, she grabs a shotgun and fatally shoots when a man breaks through the door.

 Both are the discharge of a firearm, but only one is a confirmed fatality.  Should two fatalities be documented?  Should as assessment of moral value for each event be done to decide how many fatalities should be documented?
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Reply #16 - 06/08/21 at 15:11:00
 
Mn, the problem with your morality is it's based on your god's teachings.  And the problem with that is your god's teachings can be twisted into whatever you wish.
God killed thousands of babies in Egypt,... he asked for sacrifices, he destroyed the entire world.
...and this is your compass?
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Reply #17 - 06/08/21 at 15:20:02
 
Quote:
Eegore wrote on 06/08/21 at 14:21:59:
...
 Incorrect. ...

I'll make it perfectly correct.
Just for people that need everything explained in Infinitesimal detail.
(well except for accusing a former POTUS for ..., ..., ..., ..., ..., and on and on)

A 48 year woman, with serious health issues,
is violently Raped.
She is presented with a, ‘morning after’, type pill,

after testing occurred that showed a egg of hers was fertilised, and had divided.

Wait, guess the fertilization could have happened, before', the Rape.

Just take a leap, and believe, it happened, because of the Rape.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #18 - 06/08/21 at 15:32:55
 
Quote:
Serowbot wrote on 06/08/21 at 15:11:00:
"  ...  he destroyed the entire world. ... "


Then why are we here ?

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Reply #19 - 06/08/21 at 15:47:08
 
MnSpring wrote on 06/08/21 at 15:32:55:
Quote:
Serowbot wrote on 06/08/21 at 15:11:00:
"  ...  he destroyed the entire world. ... "


Then why are we here ?


Inbreeding...  Grin


...or could it be that your God is a myth?
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Reply #20 - 06/08/21 at 15:53:47
 
"A 48 year woman, with serious health issues,
is violently Raped.
She is presented with a, ‘morning after’, type pill,
after testing occurred that showed a egg of hers was fertilised, and had divided.

Wait, guess the fertilization could have happened, before', the Rape.

Just take a leap, and believe, it happened, because of the Rape.
"

 
 How is this "exactly the same" again, something I never said, as the 20 year old?  How would a morality scale and classification alter the number of abortions in your scenario?

 Again I am saying the methods used to classify "Right/Left Wing Extremism" is flawed in most cases.  The methods.  Specifically the methods and only the methods with the exclusion of all other things.  Why do we need to have a morality scale to more accurately define if an action is linked to a specific ideology?

 If we attempt to examine how many sacrifices the Aztecs engaged in do we need to first evaluate and create a definitive morality chart regarding human sacrifice?   Can we evaluate the accuracy of these sacrifice numbers and make sure we are not including Aztec prisoner executions from warring tribes without evaluating and scrutinizing the moral fabric of Aztec culture?
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Reply #21 - 06/11/21 at 09:38:34
 
Quote:
Quote:
Serowbot wrote on 06/08/21 at 15:47:08:
 ...or could it be that your God is a myth?

Quote:
“…Mn, the problem with your morality is it's based on your god's teachings…”


Please explain further.
How do you know who, ‘my’ God is?

Is my God, Jehovah/Allah/Blaguvan/Elohim/ or someone else?
Is my religion, Christian/Judaism/Mormonism/Islam/Hinduism/Buddhism/(and many more)

So you believe, Quote:
“…your God is a myth?…”

(And not knowing who I believe in)
Do you believe all Leaders of a religion,
(who the followers of that religion call God),
that God is, also, a Myth ?

Be careful !
If that is so, your believing, ‘Father Devine’, is a Myth,
Could be called Racist !

Ya know, probably better for you to, just not believe,
Instead of, ‘Believing In Not Believing’.
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Reply #22 - 06/11/21 at 10:03:51
 
Quote:
Eegore wrote on 06/08/21 at 15:53:47:
" ...  How is this "exactly the same" ... "


Let me, 'Sp'lain it to ya'.

Two Humans, Kill another Human.
Two completely different circumstances.
Currently, in both cases, legal.
Treated the same, no problem.


10 hard core gang banger/drug dealers get killed.
10 school children get killed.
BOTH, currently illegal.
Treated quite differently !





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Reply #23 - 06/11/21 at 11:38:37
 
"Let me, 'Sp'lain it to ya'.

Two Humans, Kill another Human.
Two completely different circumstances.
Currently, in both cases, legal.
Treated the same, no problem.


10 hard core gang banger/drug dealers get killed.
10 school children get killed.
BOTH, currently illegal.
Treated quite differently !"




 But you claim this:

So these two killings of a Human baby,
In your world,
are exactly the same.



 Implying this would be my assessment, even though I clearly state they are not exactly the same.  They are 2 abortions and 20 murders - to classify them as Right or Left wing violence does not require a moral evaluation.  To classify an abortion as an abortion does not require an evaluation of the mother's moral compass.

 I am asking why a moral evaluation has to be done in order to classify CSIS information more accurately.  

 Why is that?  Why is a morality scale needed to define the political affiliation of an event?  What is wrong with reducing the amount of bullsh!t claims that "Right Wing Extremism" was a contributing factor of criminal events?

 I'm sure more abortion scenarios will keep those questions from being answered.  
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Reply #24 - 06/11/21 at 20:23:19
 
Eegore wrote on 06/11/21 at 11:38:37:
"Let me, 'Sp'lain it to ya'.

Two Humans, Kill another Human.
Two completely different circumstances.
Currently, in both cases, legal.
Treated the same, no problem.


10 hard core gang banger/drug dealers get killed.
10 school children get killed.
BOTH, currently illegal.
Treated quite differently !"




 But you claim this:

So these two killings of a Human baby,
In your world,
are exactly the same.



 Implying this would be my assessment, even though I clearly state they are not exactly the same.  They are 2 abortions and 20 murders - to classify them as Right or Left wing violence does not require a moral evaluation.  To classify an abortion as an abortion does not require an evaluation of the mother's moral compass.

 I am asking why a moral evaluation has to be done in order to classify CSIS information more accurately.  

 Why is that?  Why is a morality scale needed to define the political affiliation of an event?  What is wrong with reducing the amount of bullsh!t claims that "Right Wing Extremism" was a contributing factor of criminal events?

 I'm sure more abortion scenarios will keep those questions from being answered.  





Seriously Eegore, you have a better chance of explaining calculus to a turtle than to make any progress with mn.

But hey, I give you credit for trying.

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