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05/19/21 at 05:22:59
 
I read an interesting question. It was only 66 years from Wright Brothers flight at Kitty Hawk to Neil Armstrong walking on the moon, a remarkably short period of time.

Why? What were the major driving forces behind that success?

As for context, remember that during the 66 year period prior to the Wright Brothers flight in 1903, the horse was the primary method of travel that entire time. Yet within 66 years after that flight, we went to the moon. How?
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Reply #1 - 05/19/21 at 19:08:23
 
Well it sure wasn't a bunch of DFI, FDS, Socialists,
standing in the street,
      CRYING,
and yelling, Gimmie, Gimmie, Gimmie !


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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #2 - 05/19/21 at 19:26:34
 
 This is a pretty extensive question.

 One comparison is a timed human run.  I think it was a mile, but I can't recall.  In any case the "limit" that was understood was for example and example only a 4 minute mile.  It was a known fact, for decades, that no human could complete a mile in under 5 minutes.  Again this is exclusively an example.

 Then one person did it.  In the following year 3 more people broke the standing record.  

 This is a pertinent observation of human behavior.  I think the flight-to-space advancement was in part to this human nature competitiveness, and World War 2, and the Space Race.  Astronomical combined human and infrastructure investment went into these events.  Our entire nation for the most part worked on the success of these events, and as such the combined efforts increased the speed.

 There are other components, but I would say these are major contributors.

 
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Reply #3 - 05/19/21 at 19:47:17
 
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Eegore wrote on 05/19/21 at 19:26:34:
 "...I think the flight-to-space advancement was in part to this human nature competitiveness, and World War 2, and the Space Race.  Astronomical combined human and infrastructure investment went into these events.  Our entire nation for the most part worked on the success of these events, and as such the combined efforts increased the speed...." 


Totally agree, and none of the people that exceeded at those fantastic accomplishments, were,
Crying, Gimmie, DFI, FDS Socialists.



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Reply #4 - 05/20/21 at 04:32:39
 
Certainly the last 10 years was basically national pride.

It’s hard to say if the 66 years after the moon landing will  live up to the previous achievement. I think we’re 52 years into that and we have not achieved at the  same rate but that could be the principle, the law of diminishing returns. It’s much harder to achieve once you pass a certain level as you get closer and closer to the maximum achievement possible.

I did watch about a two hour show on discovery channel I think about how they actually built the Mars rover and the engineering behind it is incredible.
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Reply #5 - 05/20/21 at 05:10:47
 
I was reading the article below and got to the bottom which is relevant to this 66 year post. Essentially, climate change will produce few genuine challenges, all of which should be solvable with human ingenuity.

“US climate envoy John F. Kerry delivered a dire warning Wednesday on “the mounting costs … of global warming and of a more volatile climate.” Last year’s tally of “22 hurricanes, floods, droughts and wildfires shattered the previous annual record of 16 such events, and that was set only four years ago,” Kerry told a congressional hearing. “You don’t have to be a scientist to begin to feel that we’re looking at a trend line.”
Kerry is right about one thing: He is not a scientist. So here are a few climate facts that Kerry failed to mention in his testimony, marshaled by one of the Obama administration’s top scientists, Steven E. Koonin. All are based on official assessments published by the US government or United Nations:
“The warmest temperatures in the US have not risen in the past fifty years,” Koonin writes, according to the US government’s Climate Science Special Report.
“Humans have had no detectable impact on hurricanes over the past century,“ according to the 2014 National Climate Assessment.
“Since the middle of the twentieth century, the number of significant tornadoes hasn’t changed much at all, but the strongest storms have become less frequent,“ according to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration data (NOAA).
The rate of global sea-level rise 70 years ago was as large as what we observe today, according to the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
Instead of droughts, “the past fifty years have been slightly wetter than average” in the United States, according to NOAA figures.
Rather than famine, “in the fifty years from 1961 to 2011, global yields of wheat, rice, and maize … each more than doubled,” according to the IPCC.
“The net economic impact of human-induced climate change will be minimal through at least the end of this century.”
These facts come from Koonin’s new book “Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters.” When he shares such information, he writes, “most are incredulous. Some gasp. And some get downright hostile.” Koonin — a physicist who worked on alternative energy for BP and as undersecretary for science in Obama Energy Department — has dug through those U.N. and US government reports to bring us some inconvenient truths. And he says the facts do not support the “doom mongering” of climate alarmists.
The globe is warming, he tells me in an interview, partly due to natural phenomena and partly due to growing human influences. (Scientists can’t untangle the two, he writes, due to “the deficiencies of climate data.”) But, Koonin argues, the terrifying predictions of increasingly violent weather and coastal cites drowned beneath rising seas are overblown.
So are the predictions of climate-induced economic devastation. Koonin explains that, if the US economy grows at a 2 percent average annual rate, then absent any climate impact gross domestic product will rise from about $20 trillion today to about $80 trillion in 2090. If temperatures rise by 5 degrees Celsius over that same period, Koonin notes that, according to the 2018 National Climate Assessment, our growth would be 4 percent less 70 years from now. That means GDP would grow to about $77 trillion instead of $80 trillion. “We would be delayed in our growth by a couple of years,” he says.
The idea that we can stop climate change, Koonin argues, is delusional. “If we stop emitting CO2 today, it would still be there in the atmosphere for hundreds of years” he tells me. “If we manage to reduce emissions a little bit, it’ll just accumulate at a slower rate but it’ll still go up.” Even that is hard to do at an acceptable economic cost. During last year’s pandemic lockdowns, when much of the economy ground to a halt, our carbon emissions fell to about 21 percent below 2005 levels — which was less than halfway to the Biden’s administration’s 10-year goal.
Those most harmed by the draconian proposals of the climate extremists would be developing nations that produce the most emissions. People in these countries, he says, “need energy to improve their lot, and fossil fuels are right now the most reliable and convenient way of doing that.” Rather than forcing poor countries to participate in a futile and economically destructive effort to stop climate change, we need to help them adapt.
In fact, adaptation is the only choice we have, Koonin says. Climate change “will be gradual, and human ingenuity will certainly get us through this, if not allow us to prosper.” Indeed, Koonin notes there are advantages to a changing climate, such as the greening of the planet through increased vegetation, which he believes will dramatically increase the food supply for the world’s population. “So, this is not at all an unmitigated disaster as people would have you believe,” he says. “We’ll learn to take advantage of whatever changes happen rather than simply tolerate them. That’s what humans do, and we’re pretty good at it.”
Mankind has adapted to climate change before, and we’ll do it again — the doomsaying of the climate alarmists notwithstanding.”
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