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Re: They're Not Proud?
Reply #75 - 05/20/21 at 09:52:58
 
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Rockn wrote on 05/20/21 at 09:11:23:
... Googling DFI doesn't even come up with any reasonable information ...  

Truly unfortunate that you do not understand,
or can fugue out what DFI means,
(in the world of Politics)
SO, Just for you, it means,
Dumb, F uck' in, Idiot.
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #76 - 05/20/21 at 10:03:07
 
is that your preferred pronoun?
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Reply #77 - 05/20/21 at 10:19:35
 
Lol.... yep, there are some out there that think Jan. 6th was no big deal and say it's all in our imagination. When in realty, that's exactly what they themselves are doing - using their imagination in telling themselves it was no big deal.

Not surprising really. I mean, there are still people out there that believe in angels, spirits, and that hitler was right.

We have to share the world with all kinds, huh?  Even the moronic proud boys (where this thread started)

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Reply #78 - 05/20/21 at 13:48:00
 
There’s a question that hasn’t been asked yet......

Do I wish there had been an actual insurrection instead of a fictional one and if so, do I wish it would have succeeded?

Yes. The majority of the Democratic Party /media alliance threatens the future of The Republic. A proper insurrection would have forced the resignation of at least 50% of The Democratic Party and election scheduled to replace them in those states. The Presidential Election results would have been thrown out and a new election scheduled in July or August with previous absentee ballot and mail in voting procedures in place with actual verification methods to determine voter eligibility.

If that had happened, I would refer to that event as an insurrection.
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Reply #79 - 05/20/21 at 17:57:11
 

 I don't think there would be an orderly election if an insurrection happened.  I think politicians would have been murdered in the Capitol leading to months of civil unrest, Trump would have denied any involvement/responsibility in the murders and maybe even go into proverbial hiding.

 Elections to replace the murdered or resigning Democrats would be fraught with sabotage and violence from multiple organizations, professional and private.  Voting locations would have to be high-security with armed protection and possibly armed escorts.  

 If by some miracle armed citizens stopped the ceremony on Jan 6th without violence, why would anyone resign?

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Reply #80 - 05/21/21 at 05:34:09
 
A boy can dream can’t he?
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Reply #81 - 05/21/21 at 05:56:32
 
What goes around, comes around.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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Reply #82 - 05/21/21 at 06:54:27
 
 The issue with the quoting of the Declaration of Independence is people usually assume they are in the majority.

 So the real question, to me, is if the few people who would murder politicians without trial by means of forcing their way into the Capitol be representative of the majority?

 Even if they were, would they be able to literally out-gun the opposition to these events?  During the American Revolution the answer was yes.  Britain didn't have aircraft, drones, biological weapons etc. to stop what was happening here.  Is it realistic to think that a group of private citizens today could stand up to the British military?  

 Stopping one part of the US electoral process, in my opinion, would not result in resignations unless the People had significant leverage over the governing body.  On Jan 6th nobody there could have stopped the election, or forced a resignation that held ground once the hostage negotiations were over.

 
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Reply #83 - 05/21/21 at 08:02:37
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/21/21 at 05:56:32:
What goes around, comes around.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.




Not only have you reneged on your bet/promise, you've lost your fukking mind.

Sero - go ahead and perp walk this one and/or delete as you see fit
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Reply #84 - 05/21/21 at 08:17:29
 
"Not only have you reneged on your bet/promise, you've lost your fukking mind.

Sero - go ahead and perp walk this one and/or delete as you see fit"




 What's wrong with the post?

 Serow made it clear he would not honor any bet so I doubt he will go around deleting all of Webstermark's posts.  Is there something about the content of the post?
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Reply #85 - 05/21/21 at 08:31:11
 
Eegore wrote on 05/21/21 at 08:17:29:
"Not only have you reneged on your bet/promise, you've lost your fukking mind.

Sero - go ahead and perp walk this one and/or delete as you see fit"




 What's wrong with the post?

 Serow made it clear he would not honor any bet so I doubt he will go around deleting all of Webstermark's posts.  Is there something about the content of the post?



I figure since I berated another member, that's grounds for the perp walk....
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Reply #86 - 05/21/21 at 08:44:43
 
 Ahh ok that makes sense.  

 Still don't see what's wrong with Webstermark's post though.  Lost his mind?
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Reply #87 - 05/21/21 at 09:51:12
 
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"...Is it realistic to think that a group of private citizens today could stand up to the British military? ..."


       Of Course not,
                What a totally outrageous statement

It is just as saying;
‘’’Is it realistic to think that a S-40  could stand up to a M-90?’’’
It is just another way of saying; ‘…ya just can’t do it, so why try…’

Up until 1770+, the British had Superior firearms, training, cannons, warships, and numbers of soldiers.
The Colonists eventually prevailed because they were; Fighting on home turf, (Ya think that some bb player first used that?),  they were fighting with their heart, not a paycheck.
In the 1770’s+. They learned how to fight, they learned how to make better guns/powder/bullets, they learned to follow their leaders, they learned to listen to orders and instructions. They learned to be, ‘…a well regulated militia…’. They learned the advantage of ‘ambush’ fighting.
The, ‘war’, did not start in 1776, it was 1770, when the British shot and killed 5 American Colonists; that called themselves, “Patriots”.

It was declared a Revolutionary War/American War of Independence in 1776 and lasted until 1783.

That war is starting again. But it will not be fought with guns and knifes.
It will be the ballot box.
ACORN started the big time experiments of how to fix/rig a election.
They found what worked, and what did not, and more importantly, how to put the people in place that can hide, discrepancies.

That battle almost reached it peak when billery ran. She was, ’Suppose’ to win.
However the ‘fixers’, did not account of her overwhelming dislike, and the tremendous support for a fresh face, a businessman, not a money grabbing politician.
The Dong-Dong & HO-HO election, was the, (British like) successes, over the will of the people that are Citizens and PAY the taxes.

Today, the, ‘ like British Supporters’,  which their were many in 1700-1800.
Are saying, 'Oh No, asking for a ID and PROOF you are a Citizen is RACIST !
When, ‘PATRIOTS’, say, “we need Voter ID”

Difference today is they are called:
Ultra Liberal, Dumb F uck ’en Idiot, Fairy Dust Sprinkling, Socialists.

(Spelled out for the ONE person who does not know what DFI, in politics, stands for)
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #88 - 05/21/21 at 11:14:48
 

It is just as saying;
‘’’Is it realistic to think that a S-40  could stand up to a M-90?’’’
It is just another way of saying; ‘…ya just can’t do it, so why try…’



 The issue isn't force alone, but also representation of the majority with the facility to make the change.  Webstermark's proposal is that Democrats would resign and orderly more fair elections take their place.  I do not agree that Democratic politicians will resign without use of violence.  I do not think that violent action would represent the majority.

  You do have a good point about using a non-physical method of fighting.  Control of tech is a more likely future outcome.

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Reply #89 - 05/21/21 at 12:06:08
 
Eegore wrote on 05/21/21 at 06:54:27:
 The issue with the quoting of the Declaration of Independence is people usually assume they are in the majority.

 So the real question, to me, is if the few people who would murder politicians without trial by means of forcing their way into the Capitol be representative of the majority?

 Even if they were, would they be able to literally out-gun the opposition to these events?  During the American Revolution the answer was yes.  Britain didn't have aircraft, drones, biological weapons etc. to stop what was happening here.  Is it realistic to think that a group of private citizens today could stand up to the British military?  

 Stopping one part of the US electoral process, in my opinion, would not result in resignations unless the People had significant leverage over the governing body.  On Jan 6th nobody there could have stopped the election, or forced a resignation that held ground once the hostage negotiations were over.
 


I didn’t say murder anyone.
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