Sadly Zevenengie
We had a chance to do something about it in the 1940s but we left Chiang Kai-shek high and dry.
Because of this stupidly (and yea  Chiang  did not do himself any favors)
We ended up with
Korea war
Vietnam,
And roughly 60 Million dead Chinese  due  to Mao.

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Computers, personal and business, have come a long way since Atari and Commodore.
In fact I am using a China made one now, as are you and 99% of everyone else.
And Yes MUCH software is China Made.
And Yes, software may be ‘designed’ in the US, but the ’tweaking/code’ is ‘refined’ in China.
And Yes hardware can influence how Software operates.,
(Ask oldNslow)

But that’s OK Eegore, people here understand that at one time,
Some still veraciously believed that the Earth was Flat.
  (And some even yet, still say the Earth is Flat)

When people believe today, a mask will protect you from a airborne virus.
WHEN IT SAYS,
        ON THE PACKAGE THE MASK IS IN,
IT WILL NOT,  
(WHICH WAS MADE IN CHINA)
They will believe, Dong-Dong and HO-HO, are not total ‘installed’ puppets.

“On Jan. 10, 2020, NBC News said that despite assurances that voting machines were “not connected to the Internet,” cybersecurity experts claimed at the time that was not necessarily true.”
“In fact, Manfra wasn’t the only government official who made the claim that voting machines weren’t connected to the Internet. NBC reported at the time that numerous government officials had made the same claims,”
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/from-chinese-technology-to-hacking-electr...

“EXPLOSIVE: Suspected Chinese Hackers Used SolarWinds Breach To Access Government Computers. The connection between China and SolarWinds continues to unravel amid national security concerns over the massive cyber attack that struck the company last year.”
“According to a report by Reuters, the FBI has learned that the National Finance Center was affected by the cyber attack, potentially compromising thousands of government employees in what is now believed to be a Chinese operation.”
“It appears that the alleged Chinese hackers exploited a bug within the compromised Orion platform to “spread across” networks.”
https://nationalfile.com/explosive-suspected-chinese-hackers-used-solarwinds-bre
ach-to-access-government-computers/

“Google warned in June that state-sponsored hackers were targeting 2020 US election campaigns, and now it’s outlining some of the methods those perpetrators used. APT31, a group linked to China, impersonated McAfee (the antivirus software, not its indicted founder) in a bid to trick campaign workers into installing malware. While the software was a real copy stored in GitHub, the ploy would quietly install malware in the background.”
“Brute force attacks also played a role, Google added. They’re less common from state-backed groups, but Google pointed to a distributed denial of service attack in 2017 that illustrated the dangers. The tech pioneer had to absorb an attack using a whopping 2.5Tbps of bandwidth spread across several Chinese internet providers. “
https://www.engadget.com/china-apt-31-impersonated-mcafee-in-election-attack-...

“’Online and vulnerable': Experts find nearly three dozen U.S. voting systems connected to internet. A team of election security experts used a “Google for servers” to challenge claims that voting machines do not connect to the internet and found some did.”
“So many government officials like Manfra have said the same thing over the last few years that it is commonly accepted as gospel by most Americans. Behind it is the notion that if voting systems are not online, hackers will have a harder time compromising them.
But that is an overstatement, according to a team of 10 independent cybersecurity experts who specialize in voting systems and elections. While the voting machines themselves are not designed to be online, the larger voting systems in many states end up there, putting the voting process at risk.
That team of election security experts say that last summer, they discovered some systems are, in fact, online.
“We found over 35 [voting systems] had been left online and we’re still continuing to find more,” Kevin Skoglund, a senior technical advisor at the election security advocacy group National Election Defense Coalition, told NBC News.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/online-vulnerable-experts-find-nea...

https://theamericanreport.org/2021/02/08/chinese-computers-used-in-cyberwarfare-
attack-on-2020-u-s-election-purchased-by-hunter-bidens-chinese-investment-firm-b
hr-sources-claim/

“And the list on, and the list goes on,
Drums keep beating, Socialists in my head”
      (Cher again LOL)

Eegore wrote on 05/05/21 at 07:20:32:



I so enjoy seeing Eegore put the smack down on those who refuse to debate facts!

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So Interesting,
Now you say you agree with the first part,
Yet you IMPLIED,
you did Not agree with, zevenenergie, or Matchless G11.


When you said,
“… Should we make up the software part…”
And gave the comparison/scenario  of,
“…This is like the claim that …” (two companies are the same)

MnSpring wrote on 05/06/21 at 08:42:26:


Well, I guess I'll entertain myself here a little.... So..

Eegore has indeed smacked down those who refuse to debate facts.  Unlike those who he smacks, he provides cogent arguments, quotes and references for all his statements.  So, it's not "spin" it's facts.

To the economy as of late - the GDP for the 1st quarter of 2021 grew at a 6.4% seasonally adjusted annual rate in January through March.  So what you call "giving away trillions" is actually working.

To firearms - no one that I know, including myself, has ever said that "Banning Firearms in other States, will stop criminals in Chicago".  I'm not sure where you got that from.  I've stated that the reason there are so many guns in Chicago, despite the laws here, are that guns are readily available in the states surrounding Illinois.

I somewhat - repeat - SOMEWHAT agree with defunding the police as they are now - that's not to say that we should in any way stop investing in police altogether.  I feel we need to demilitarize the police and focus the efforts of actually keeping the peace and to effectively train the force to de-escalate situations properly.  Most police officers already have these skills (at least the ones I know), but it's obviously been given a lessor importance in recent years - again, at least from the police officers I know and speak with.

What you call "one Officer, knelt on the neck of a Drug Addled, Dangerous Felon", resulted in a guilty verdict with a diverse jury.  It doesn't matter how "drug addled" the suspect was.  The officer knowingly did what he did, without giving any thought to the suspect.  Believe it or not, suspects, no matter how "drug addled" have rights.  George Floyd was murdered by that cop - that's what the jury said.

As to your statement of "Stealing, setting fires, is a ‘peaceful’ protest." - I, nor anyone else on this forum, or the public in general to my knowledge has ever said that.

As to Biden - well, his approval rating, his speeches, his administration's GDP numbers, the housing market, the DOW and pretty much every economic indicator seem to point to the fact that he does indeed have a brain.

Oh, and I've seen that flat earth site before.  It's pretty funny.  It amazes me that there are some people in this day and age that actually believe the world is flat!  But then again, there are still people that think the 2020 election was stolen from trump - those folks are in the same categoy.

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Ya got PLENTY of ‘lube’



Oh, on the rest of your, ‘statements’.

Please provide substantial websites
   that  say the same opinion as you do.
Which rely on, FACTS, not opinion.

Oh Yea,
I guess, ‘I am to lazy to look it up myself’,
(As you often said)

zevenenergie wrote on 05/05/21 at 23:51:44:


That’s a funny picture!

China has Grandpa Joe by the shorthairs in the way leftist shouted they had Trump which they didn’t. These f*cksticks in office now are in deep sh!t and they don’t have the shoes for it. China (and others) are going to push to test Gramps and assuming he’s not napping, he’s just as likely to over react as he is to do nothing.