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Reply #30 - 04/14/21 at 14:42:04
 
Google search.

From what I can see in the photos you posted, your float will require adjustment. Do a youtube search to see how its done.
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Reply #31 - 04/14/21 at 14:54:10
 
You said: The float height should be 1.06" to 1.114". This will need to be rechecked and adjusted if necessary.

Is that in inches,cm,mm..?
Sorry, bad at measurements; math and anything to do with measurements were my weak spots in school. which tool is that being used in the picture?
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Reply #32 - 04/14/21 at 15:05:54
 
Im reading frome the Clymer manual.. float level;

26.95-28.95, mm.
1,06-1,114, inch.
For every year!
And than it says, hold the carburator upside down, dont push the float down, just let it rest on the float needle.
Ofcourse there is a picture of this, that I cant provide.
In any case.. I thought that buying a Clymer manual should do everythng easyer.. its a thick book!

To that, frome 1995 and forward, in US and Europe I think.. execept GB.

Main jet says 145, needle jet says, X-7M, Pilot jet says 52,5mm.

Its this strange thing, both GB and Australia have other jets/needles?
Probably some exhauste regulation.. in my backhead I remember/or dreamed it, the later Aussie bikes dont rev that high? Undecided
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Reply #33 - 04/14/21 at 15:07:45
 
Maybe an elevation thing?
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Reply #34 - 04/14/21 at 15:12:21
 
Set the float height at 1-1/16 inch, but not more than 1-1/8 inch.

In the United States, the “ symbol is used to show inches. The ‘ symbol is used to show feet.
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Reply #35 - 04/14/21 at 15:14:26
 
retro wrote on 04/14/21 at 15:07:45:
Maybe an elevation thing?


Probably not.. becuse both GB and Australia is Islands, and totaly different climates.

Must be something about exhauste regulations?
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Reply #36 - 04/14/21 at 15:29:29
 
Gary get a great picture how to measure, but hold the carburator upside down.. and its the part that gasket lays on to be measured to.

And I did find the Clymer manual online for you to read;


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-SYGAaTtZiuMUE4RFk1Q3d0Q1k/view
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Reply #37 - 04/14/21 at 16:52:25
 
That carb doesn't look very clean to me.  

The diaphragm looks a little dry and dirty around the edges.  It might not have been properly seated.  I would like to see the slide.  

The main jet looks a little rough like it might have been drilled out.  The screw holding the needle seat in place looks new.  

The carb looks like it had been sitting a long time at some point in its life and someone "rebuilt" it.  (Rebuilt it code for "I sprayed nuts in there, stripped out a few things and put a couple of jets I got off ebay in there." )

I wouldn't trust that anything is as it should be.  
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Reply #38 - 04/14/21 at 17:09:48
 
ohiomoto wrote on 04/14/21 at 16:52:25:
That carb doesn't look very clean to me.  

The diaphragm looks a little dry and dirty around the edges.  It might not have been properly seated.  I would like to see the slide.  

The main jet looks a little rough like it might have been drilled out.  The screw holding the needle seat in place looks new.  

The carb looks like it had been sitting a long time at some point in its life and someone "rebuilt" it.  (Rebuilt it code for "I sprayed nuts in there, stripped out a few things and put a couple of jets I got off ebay in there." )

I wouldn't trust that anything is as it should be.  


You catch on fast. The carb was indeed rebuilt by the previous owner because the bike had been sitting for 8 years. I’m impressed at your eagle eye. However you can find out the story and video of the guy actually rebuilding the carb on the previous posts on this thread if you would like to find out more. Besides the carb float and a couple of stained brass, it looks a heck of a lot better than it used to! It used to have a lot of gunk and old gas. That isn’t the main diaphragm, it’s the smaller one. I tossed that picture in there just because I did a whole dump.

Previous owner did buy a rebuild kit and rebuilt it.

I’d buy a new carb and put it in but I have no idea what carb to use. It sucks.
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Reply #39 - 04/14/21 at 17:12:19
 
Gary_in_NJ wrote on 04/14/21 at 15:12:21:
Set the float height at 1-1/16 inch, but not more than 1-1/8 inch.

In the United States, the “ symbol is used to show inches. The ‘ symbol is used to show feet.


No, I know the whole inches and feet thing some people ive ran into use “ as Mm for some reason and I got confused a little. And when I worked on my China bike it was all Mm. I am new to floats though, as my China bike actually came with perfect settings on both carbs lol
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Reply #40 - 04/14/21 at 17:17:25
 
ohiomoto wrote on 04/14/21 at 17:12:23:
I misunderstood your first post and thought the video was of someone else hacking up the carb.  lol



Yeah that was the previous owner. That’s his YouTube channel. Basically he got the bike for free, he fixed it up to “good enough”, practiced on it, dropped it, after a few months of riding said “good enough” and I bought it..and he lied about the whole carb issue. My stupidity but hey, I’m trying to make it right..
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Reply #41 - 04/14/21 at 17:21:53
 
retro wrote on 04/14/21 at 17:09:48:
You catch on fast. The carb was indeed rebuilt by the previous owner because the bike had been sitting for 8 years. I’m impressed at your eagle eye. However you can find out the story and video of the guy actually rebuilding the carb on the previous posts on this thread if you would like to find out more. Besides the carb float and a couple of stained brass, it looks a heck of a lot better than it used to! It used to have a lot of gunk and old gas. That isn’t the main diaphragm, it’s the smaller one. I tossed that picture in there just because I did a whole dump.

Previous owner did buy a rebuild kit and rebuilt it.

I’d buy a new carb and put it in but I have no idea what carb to use. It sucks.
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I misunderstood your first post and thought the video was of someone else hacking up the carb.  lol

Also, the quote format on here sucks.  It would be helpful to put more space or lines between the quoted text and your reply.  It will make it much easier to follow along.   (EDIT:  Like you just did. NM lol)


Lance sells carb kit and there is some other carb guy out there that does a plug and play LS650 kit.  I forget the name off the to of my head but someone just did one on here recently.
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Reply #42 - 04/14/21 at 17:24:28
 
A plug and play? Oooooo....I have got to find the person who’s done that!! Oooo let me know if you find them!!

And I messaged lancer.
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Reply #43 - 04/14/21 at 17:26:31
 
It was Murray's carbs.  Not sure how it compares to Lancers Kit.  But I think both are plug and play.  Lancer is always on here for support if that makes a difference.  

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Reply #44 - 04/14/21 at 17:29:22
 

I shall wait for his response so I can talk to him haha. Because jesus this is a headache. I actually have a bike that is smaller and more cramped. I could’ve cried when I saw how close the carb was to the frame, air box, everything. It was hell to change but I got it done. This I assume I might mess up putting back on but Atleast I have help. I have all the parts and such but getting it back into the perfect position...yikes. I took the breather off and an O-ring clamp popped off from...somewhere. And I’m not talking about the two at each end. There was a bloody third one!
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