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03/08/21 at 07:29:09
 
And the Fear is still continuing.

MORE conflicting statements,
about c-19, vaccine effectiveness and distribution.

MORE  coverage of the fatal, Illegal Drug infested, Fellon,  
that their ever was about a -fast-tracked-,
"Diversity" person who KILLED a person in absolute Cold Blood.

And Deflection.
All the concern about who said what, about someone who is 6th inline for a Monarchy of three countries of Subjects.
So the ShePol can forget about a laptop, or someone throwing paint on a canvas and selling them for bucko bucks to a Nation that want's to CONTROL the USA.

And now, WHO smells FEAR/WEAKNESS ?
Could it be all the countries,
that are now rattling their sabers in various ways ?
Could it be the flood of illegals lined up to cross the boarders ?
Could it be all the, 'banana republics', with their hand out ?
And on, and ON, AND ON, ..., ..., ...




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Reply #1 - 03/08/21 at 15:35:32
 
 Without references we can't discuss what you see.

 I can look up Covid 19 but there is no way for me to know if what I look up is what you are referring to.


 I can search "someone throwing paint on a canvas and selling them for bucko bucks to a Nation that want's to CONTROL the USA." but I can't tell if that is what you are referring to.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=GLVGYOnRCemF9PwPusKQ0Ag&iflsig=AIN...
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Reply #2 - 03/10/21 at 06:45:54
 
Eegore wrote on 03/08/21 at 15:35:32:
 Without references we can't discuss what you see...
..." but I can't tell if that is what you are referring to...

Really ??????????

So then you have no idea of what I am talking about when I say:

Look at the support for, 'Red Laws',
when two people can accuse someone of something,
      with absolutely no proof,
and total refusal of who said certain things.
And when another person raised their eyebrows at that,
so many shepol, totally believed them !!!!!!


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Reply #3 - 03/10/21 at 07:50:55
 
 I would know what you are talking about, regarding the subject you just changed, but not the subject you originally brought up, specific to the questions raised about the topic questioned and not other topics.

 If I say I am using nicknames for a politician and you tell me that you do not know specifically what those nicknames refer to because a search of those nicknames reveal multiple results - then I bring up Red laws, it would be reasonable for you to continue to not know the specific nickname reference I am using.  You would have an idea, but not know the correct one.

 If I say I am using a lumen chart to evaluate conversion ratios and you ask me what one I use and I bring up Red Laws, it would be reasonable for you to still not know what chart I am using.  You would have an idea of what I am talking about but not the specifics.

 If I say "someone throwing paint on a canvas and selling them for bucko bucks to a Nation that want's to CONTROL the USA." and you provide the search results, and those results that do not indicate what this means, and I bring up Red Laws, it would be reasonable for you to continue to not know what that sentence refers to.


 So to answer your question as you continue to avoid mine:  Yes I would have an idea on what you are talking about, regarding the new topic you just chose.  

 Now if I ask "What law are you referring to?" and you say "look it up" and there are multiple laws across the country, how would I know which one you are talking about?
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Reply #4 - 03/12/21 at 08:37:24
 
"... Support for Covid-19 Vaccine Passports Grows, With European, Chinese Backing.

Similarly, the European Commission plans this month to present proposals for a “digital green pass” for EU citizens, which will specify if someone has been vaccinated, and if not, carry details of their test results.

“The aim is to gradually enable them [EU citizens] to move safely in the European Union or abroad—for work or tourism,”

As vaccine rollouts gain momentum, governments world-wide are looking at ways for people to prove they are inoculated against the coronavirus, raising logistical and ethical concerns about whether others will be excluded from daily life.

The U.K. government recently announced it will consider whether Britons will need proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test to visit bars, return to the office or attend theaters and sporting events.

In Israel, a vaccine passport was launched last week allowing those who are inoculated to go to hotels and gyms.

Saudi Arabia now issues an app-based health passport for those inoculated,

Iceland’s government is doling out vaccine passports to facilitate foreign travel.

Last month, President Biden issued executive orders asking government agencies to assess the feasibility of creating digital Covid-19 vaccination certificates. ..."

And On and ON the FEAR is spread.

Simply to CONTROL the world populous,
for a WORLD Order/Leader.

And the US will hold out for a while,
Until ALL the FDS, UL, Progressive Freedom Hating Socialists,
     gain total and complete CONTROL.
 
    (As they are currently working towards)
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Reply #5 - 03/12/21 at 09:41:31
 
 Don't we require a passport already?

 Why would requiring proof one has a vaccine be different than other requirements to go from country to country?

 Or are you recommending passports not be used at all for the US, or some other reduction in confirming ID when travelling to other countries?
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Reply #6 - 03/12/21 at 18:27:11
 
Eegore wrote on 03/12/21 at 09:41:31:
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 Why would requiring proof one has a vaccine be different than other requirements to go from country to country ...


Perhaps you missed,
the implication of, "Papers Please",
to travel to the next State, or the next town, or next door.

"... concerns about whether others will be excluded from daily life.

The U.K. government recently announced it will consider whether Britons will need proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test to visit bars, return to the office or attend theaters and sporting events.

In Israel, a vaccine passport was launched last week allowing those who are inoculated to go to hotels and gyms.

Saudi Arabia now issues an app-based health passport for those inoculated ..."
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Reply #7 - 03/12/21 at 20:22:16
 
Country to country
Sure

But the bank?

Try to get the intent
Don't play
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The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.
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Reply #8 - 03/12/21 at 22:52:15
 
"Perhaps you missed,
the implication of, "Papers Please",
to travel to the next State, or the next town, or next door.
"


 I did.

 I would say it's unenforceable at this time, and at any time in the near future, to say the US Government can prohibit the travel of every citizen from State to State, town to town or house to house.  The logistics of keeping every human in the country under that type of surveillance is astronomical.  I imagine this will go into effect around the same time SWAT teams start kicking in doors taking guns from every person in the country.

 Enforcing gyms is more reasonable as they can control, to a degree, the operations of gyms on a case by case basis.  Locking down an entire town would take much more resources than boarding up a single building.

 I think the concern regarding this typically outweighs the logistical ability to do most of what is predicted to happen at some point in some Orwellian future we were told would happen decades ago.
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Reply #9 - 03/21/21 at 07:39:49
 
Sunday 'news', the FEAR is rampant !
The Sky is falling !

Recent shooting of Asians,
the path to inflation,
  the surge in saber rattling,
Even the SURGE in Illegals,
      is Trumps fault,
despite Ding-Dong, striking down all measures Trump put in.
And INFERING, Before and after the 'election',
that illegals are Welcome !!!!!!!!

Nation Wide news coverage about a white cop doing his job by containing a dangerous Drug Infested Felon.
Yet Nothing about a 'fast tracked' black cop KILLING a white female IN COLD BLOOD.

Golly Gee Wally, where are all the tt, 'Social Justice warrior' clones ?
(Or could it be they are  just Freedom Hating Socialists)



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Reply #10 - 04/05/21 at 15:07:32
 
Keep taking the links outa that chain
        to make it shorter !



" ...Last updated on 03/24/2021
Like many elements of travel, the COVID-19 pandemic has had a significant effect on domestic travel. Constantly changing restrictions and guidelines leave many travelers unsure about how to travel between states and what will be required of them upon arrival. To help clarify the situation, InsureMyTrip has aggregated recent data from reliable sources and condensed it into maps, which will be updated as necessary, to reflect the latest restrictions and guidelines for each state.
So, before hitting the road on your next U.S. adventure, check our travel restrictions guide to ensure you know what to expect.
For some states, it appears slightly more complex than simply "do I need to quarantine upon arrival or not?" A significant number of states offer COVID-19 testing in lieu of a mandatory quarantine.
Additionally, many states are implementing mandatory documentation upon arrival and health screening at airports.  ... "


And from the Favorite site of the Ding-Dong and Ho-Ho lovers.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/travel-during-covid19.html
" ... Domestic Travel Recommendations for Fully Vaccinated People
People who are fully vaccinated with an FDA-authorized vaccine can travel safely within the United States.

Domestic Travel Recommendations for Unvaccinated People
...
     •      After you travel:
     ◦      Get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel AND stay home and self-quarantine for a full 7 days after travel.
     ▪      Even if you test negative, stay home and self-quarantine for the full 7 days. ... "


Wait, the CDC just said, ‘7’ days ?   Now when did they change that ?
Well, I suppose they learned it was OK.
Especially after listing to Ding-Dong,
stating totally contradicting statements,
Numerous Times.

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Reply #11 - 04/05/21 at 15:44:17
 
"Wait, the CDC just said, ‘7’ days ?   Now when did they change that ?"

 When the information supporting it became available.  It's only 7 days under the specific circumstances listed.  10 for other circumstances and 14 for another.

 Changes will happen as they clearly indicate:

CDC will update these recommendations as more people are vaccinated, as rates of COVID-19 change, and as additional scientific evidence becomes available.


 Now if we post the whole section and don't cut it off to only show 7 days we can see this:

After you travel:
Get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel AND stay home and self-quarantine for a full 7 days after travel.

Even if you test negative, stay home and self-quarantine for the full 7 days.

If your test is positive, isolate yourself to protect others from getting infected.

If you don’t get tested, stay home and self-quarantine for 10 days after travel.

Avoid being around people who are at increased risk for severe illness for 14 days, whether you get tested or not.

Self-monitor for COVID-19 symptoms; isolate and get tested if you develop symptoms.

Follow all state and local recommendations or requirements.
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Reply #12 - 04/05/21 at 17:25:34
 

Eegore wrote on 04/05/21 at 15:44:17:
"...After you travel:
Get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel AND stay home and self-quarantine for a full 7 days after travel.

Get tested, if the test is Yes or No, does not matter, just get tested.
THEN stay home for 7 days

Quote:
Even if you test negative, stay home and self-quarantine for the full 7 days.

Ya don't have it, Still stay home for 7 days !

Quote:
If your test is positive, isolate yourself to protect others from getting infected.

For how long ?

Quote:
If you don’t get tested, stay home and self-quarantine for 10 days after travel.

Wait,  just said 7 days?  Which is it !

Quote:
Avoid being around people who are at increased risk for severe illness for 14 days, whether you get tested or not. ..."


Outside of seeing a oblivious person, old, frail, etc.
Should one ask the stranger in front of you in a line, close to you in a store isle, getting into a car parked next to you, etc.
"Hey, you got Cancer, are you on any med's that suppress your immune system, etc, etc, etc,"

Yep CDC, like WHO, and several States DCS are just makein stuff up as they go along.

All for the goal of taking another link out of the chain.
Cause Ding-Dong said so.
And Ding-Dong said so because,
Ding-Dong was TOLD to say that !

Oh, why no comment on the, 'Papers Please',
which the first paragraph was all about ?

"...Constantly changing restrictions and guidelines leave many travelers unsure about how to travel between states and what will be required of them upon arrival..."




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Reply #13 - 04/05/21 at 18:48:30
 
"Wait,  just said 7 days?  Which is it !"


Even if you test negative, stay home and self-quarantine for the full 7 days.

If you don’t get tested, stay home and self-quarantine for 10 days after travel.


 If you test negative stay home for 7 days.

 If you do not get tested stay home for 10 days.



If your test is positive, isolate yourself to protect others from getting infected.

"For how long ?"

 Good question.  I would stay away until I test negative then go the 7 days.


Outside of seeing a oblivious person, old, frail, etc.
Should one ask the stranger in front of you in a line, close to you in a store isle, getting into a car parked next to you, etc.
"Hey, you got Cancer, are you on any med's that suppress your immune system, etc, etc, etc,"


 That's up to you.  The recommendation is to stay away from those at higher risk.  You do you.


Yep CDC, like WHO, and several States DCS are just makein stuff up as they go along.

 Or they are making changes based off of data like they said they would.   Just because people won't look at the information doesn't mean it doesn't exist and is not used.

 Not understanding the difference between 7 and 10 days based off of a positive test or no-test isn't the CDC's issue.  They made adjustments and one can audit that information.  Won't mean they are right but at least the information is there.
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Reply #14 - 04/06/21 at 05:33:27
 
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I think the concern regarding this typically outweighs the logistical ability to do most of what is predicted to happen at some point in some Orwellian future we were told would happen decades ago.



Really. If I had told you, a year and a half ago, that, in a nation of 330 million individuals,the majority of those people would lock themselves in their houses for weeks or months on end and only venture out where they might meet other people if they tied a rag around their faces, and they would continue doing it up until right now, and will continue,until some self anointed "expert tells them it's OK to stop, would you have believed me?

No one had to "enforce "this either. We did it to ourselves.

All it took was a relentless campaign of FEAR.

cui bono.
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