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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5716 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	mirrors 02/09/21 at 16:15:59 I put a longer handle-bar on the Guzzi today. New one is aluminum and weighs only about 1/2 of what the factory one did even though its 2" taller and 2" longer. I'm thinking of putting different mirrors on. Has anybody tried to use the bar-end-mirrors ?
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5716 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: mirrors Reply #2 - 02/09/21 at 19:30:57 If it does vibrate ... I could put those steel end-caps back on , but I hope it don't. So how did the mirrors work out on the ends of the handlebars ?
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Reply #3 - 02/10/21 at 09:24:59

I have bar end mirrors, and I like the current ones.

The first ones I had were way too small, and I had a hard time seeing anything out of them.

These are the ones I have now. They don't provide as big of a viewing area as the stock mirrors - but it is a reasonable amount. These are out of stock from the seller I got them - but if you search eBay you can likely find someone else with them.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Round-Motorcycle-Rear-View-Handle-Bar-End-Rearview-S...

Both of my BMW bikes have massive bar end weights - nearly a pound on each end of the handlebars.

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Reply #4 - 02/10/21 at 16:35:07

I got thinking about my bar end mirrors after that last post.

I have them on my Cafe' bike, as they are a part of the "look" for that style of bike.

After mounting them, I discovered a few things about them.

1) When you first mount them - for a while you will wack them with your hands as you park and get off the bike. And when you wack them you will knock them out of adjustment....eventually you get used to them being at the end of the handlebars and you tend to wack them out of adjustment less frequently.
2) The bar end mirrors are much lower than the factory mirrors, and you must drop your line of vision down to use them.....and you lose sight of the road while using the mirrors. It is not as bad as the speedometer in the top of the fuel tank - but it does require you to look away from the road.
3) The bar end mirrors provide a very nice view of your forearms. Standard mirrors are higher and tend to look over your arms, the bar end mirrors have a lot of arm in the view!

I believe the standard mirrors provide a far better field of vision, and therefore are likely safer.

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Reply #5 - 02/10/21 at 16:42:41

So , I was able to take "Lucky" the Guzzi out for a nice ride today.

It's almost amazing how much difference a different pair of handlebars makes. The new ones are just short of 32 inches wide and the amount of control is very good !

The stock bars were only 28" and also 2" less rise , The set-back angle is about the same on both .

Night and day difference in rideability .

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And the clutch is working nice and smooth now too ! Cool

At one point not so long ago : I had the thought of replacing Lucky with Kate .
The package is so sweet now , I've even had a thought of selling Kate !

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: mirrors Reply #6 - 02/12/21 at 09:22:40 If I was seriously fighting vibrations I would just maybe try tension ing a cable inside.
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Reply #7 - 02/12/21 at 10:07:48

seriously fighting vibrations

Maybe I should have made mention of this earlier.

Luck (the GUZZI) , only vibrates when the motor is going too slow.

Yea , the red-line is only 6500 but it will readily run up to 7000 where power gain drops off to zero gain.

We all know how the S-40 acts below 1500-RPM , well the Guzzi V twin is very similar . At low RPM is when Luck vibrates , above 2000 rpm all the way to the max is where the Guzzi's shine the best and run smooth.
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Where I was going with this is about : How much better the wide handlebars are for controlling any bike.

Has anybody ever tried to use narrow handlebars on a dirt bike ?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: mirrors Reply #8 - 02/12/21 at 10:59:19 The advantage of longer bars would seem obvious. However, without a government funded study I can't allow myself to actually have an opinion.
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Reply #9 - 02/12/21 at 14:12:44

Wow ! JOG

I had no idea you were so Scholarly , well said !

It seems most of the studies have been done down at the local bike shop in the dual-sport department . Apparently there are no narrow or pull-back bars to be found on that entire side of the place. Huh

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I'll have admit that Kate the "W" has wide bars and gave me the idea to get Luck some of them too.

So what Dave said about the factory mirrors being best : What does the government study say about that ? Undecided

I've ordered a pair of bar-end mirrors , but maybe I should order a pair of aluminum bar-end plugs to install instead ? I don't feel the need to put those solid steel 1 pound end-caps back on it. Roll Eyes

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17784 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: mirrors Reply #10 - 02/13/21 at 12:26:58 MM: Are the handlebars you are working on 7/8"....or 1"?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: mirrors Reply #11 - 02/13/21 at 15:27:29 I like everything about bar end mirrors except how I keep dragging them in the twisties.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17784 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: mirrors Reply #12 - 02/13/21 at 15:49:26 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/13/21 at 15:27:29: I like everything about bar end mirrors except how I keep dragging them in the twisties. JOG: Are you currently residing at "Fantasy Island"?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: mirrors Reply #13 - 02/13/21 at 19:00:46 Just practicing my bullshitting. Spring isn't that far off and I intend to spend plenty of time fishing. A fellow needs to be able to conjure up tall tales at a moments notice.
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MMRanch Serious Thumper Offline Evil flourishes if Good Men do Nothing. Posts: 5716 LYNCHBURG TN Gender:	Re: mirrors Reply #14 - 02/13/21 at 20:28:50 7/8 , but I already ordered a pair of them ,.... I hope I don't have the same problem as JOG ... maybe I should go ahead and get an extra pair to use after our first Suches Ga. ride in 2021 ? Maybe Stew woin't lead so fast this year ? ???
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