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Mavigogun Serious Thumper Offline We roll farther together Posts: 775 Progressive Texas	The Trial of The Twice Impeached Former President 02/09/21 at 10:40:43 Watch live- well, about a two minute delay -here: https://youtu.be/AsEQiVKCp38
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Mavigogun Serious Thumper Offline We roll farther together Posts: 775 Progressive Texas	Re: The Trial of The Twice Impeached Former Presid Reply #1 - 02/10/21 at 01:43:59 Of course, it doesn’t matter that Trump’s defense was a train wreck, or his guilt obvious- after 4 years of hitching their wagon to the traitor, a significant portion of Republican Senators are determined to follow him off the cliff.... which is really what this trial is about.
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8000	Re: The Trial of The Twice Impeached Former Presid Reply #2 - 02/10/21 at 06:32:07 That was a rough opening for the defense. The rest was ok though. I am interested in the outcome but don't really care what it is. I think over time there will be some sort of amending to confirm that a sitting President in his last week of office can or can't do whatever he wants with impunity.
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Reply #3 - 02/10/21 at 06:58:48

By an Amendment to the Constitution? You.... think that is possible... in this country... in the near future? Are you banking on the GOP collapse leaving a fragmented, marginalized, and diminished “conservative” block?

It seems to me we’re in an elevator where progress upward may be stymied by the occupants, and those standing in a place of Gerrymandered and Electoral College privilege nearer the controls have developed a culture celebrating the emergency stop button and descent.

Regardless, there is no need for a clarifying Amendment- as Trump’s legal team made abundantly clear in their surrender to the Manager’s case yesterday.

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Reply #4 - 02/10/21 at 13:18:22

The Manager’s case as presented today has been, on whole, compelling and dammning. What’s most gobsmacking is the question has required prolonged debate. Uncertain as to the utility of such a trial in the presence of Republican Senators predetermined not hold hold Trump to account, I now see clearly the importance and value of drawing a line for Representatives to choose a side to stand on, and to provide a concise record for future generations wondering what actually happened, how the Republic and its people could be brought so low.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28754 L.A. California Gender:	Re: The Trial of The Twice Impeached Former Presid Reply #5 - 02/10/21 at 20:28:25 I don't think this should be tried in congress... they are all victims and can not be impartial.
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Reply #6 - 02/10/21 at 20:47:03

verslagen1 wrote on 02/10/21 at 20:28:25:

... they are all victims and can not be impartial.

I believe a review of the record demonstrates at least a few not to be victims, but co-conspirators, and the greater threat of partisanship in complicity. Besides, to find non-impacted judges, you'd have to look abroad, since all we Citizens are victims.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28754 L.A. California Gender:	Re: The Trial of The Twice Impeached Former Presid Reply #7 - 02/10/21 at 21:21:28 I don't believe any of the senate are impartial. This can only be tried in the supreme court.
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Reply #8 - 02/10/21 at 21:39:53

verslagen1 wrote on 02/10/21 at 21:21:28:

This can only be tried in the supreme court.

The Constitution is explicitly clear the Senate is the venue. The fantastic suggestion would have 3 Trump appointees sitting in judgement; if impartiality is your concern, that extra-legal recourse is no remedy.

Practically, when crimes are so heinous as to offend our basic sense of right and wrong, impartiality isn't possible. The greater threat comes from those lacking this quality.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8000	Re: The Trial of The Twice Impeached Former Presid Reply #9 - 02/11/21 at 05:33:04 I think this will just be a political decision process, not a facts decision process.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28366 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: The Trial of The Twice Impeached Former Presid Reply #10 - 02/11/21 at 06:39:21 He's already banned from Twitter,... what could be worse?
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Mavigogun Serious Thumper Offline We roll farther together Posts: 775 Progressive Texas	Re: The Trial of The Twice Impeached Former Presid Reply #11 - 02/11/21 at 07:11:44 Serowbot wrote on 02/11/21 at 06:39:21: He's already banned from Twitter,... what could be worse? Retiring his hue of face paint?
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