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When will the corrupt pardon storm begin?
11/21/20 at 23:55:58
 
Remember all Trump cares about is owning the Libs and revenge on anyone who won't lie for him. Pretty soon now will come the corruptly issued pardons.

Let's get ahead of the curve and have some suggestion on who will get the pardons, and will Trump try to pardon himself, or resign before the 20th and get Pence to pardon him?

discuss.

I reckon as soon as he has squeezed out as much bs as possible the pardons will begin so I'm guessing that as soon as the GSA declares Biden the victor, Trump will try to play any cards that he has left and then try to drag out the pardons soon afterwards in a continuous stream to milk it for all the publicity he can.

I have to say though that Biden is playing this very well, not biting at anything. A quiet projection of real power.

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Reply #1 - 11/25/20 at 17:31:41
 
Welp that didn't take long, Flynn pardoned today. I guess Trump has a lot of pardons lined up and wanted a quick start or to soften up the public for the inevitable family pardons.

Can a President corruptly issue a pardon? That has never been tested and surely it must be by the new attorney general.
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Reply #2 - 11/26/20 at 06:52:50
 
May be a dumb move.
If Flynn is called to testify in future,... possibly in a Trump investigation,  he can no longer plead the 5th with his new "Get out of jail free" card.
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Reply #3 - 11/27/20 at 18:21:41
 
Prosecution DROPPED CHARGES.
Corrupt lefty judge somehow managed to pretend he's God.
The man was wrongly prosecuted.
Railroaded.
But, lefties see what lefties see.
It's PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.
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Reply #4 - 11/27/20 at 19:34:18
 
He pleaded guilty twice lying to the FBI, strange thing is that he didn't need to lie, but he instinctively wanted to protect Trump.

"lefty judges" that's your go to excuse for everything.

The case was corruptly dropped by the corrupt Barr.
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Reply #5 - 11/27/20 at 20:59:08
 
Too bad you're LYING to yourself.
The facts are readily available.
The corrupt F.B.I. were threatening his son.

Go fact check these points.
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/dozen-bela...
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Reply #6 - 11/27/20 at 23:46:40
 
Thats how all your posts go, there's the "LIAR" part in all caps, then there's the "leftists" in there somewhere as if that seals the deal, then there's the inevitable bullshit conspiracy theory and a link to a nut job website that pushes these conspiracy theories.

Rinse and repeat.
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Reply #7 - 11/28/20 at 01:16:27
 
There's the
I don't like the title.
I don't like who said it.
Either look at and show me Why
What is being said isn't true or just keep proving why lefties can't learn truth over agenda driven beliefs.
They FUKKED Flynn or the Sumbitch would still be in prison.
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Reply #8 - 11/28/20 at 07:54:01
 
eau de sauvage wrote on 11/21/20 at 23:55:58:
... now will come the corruptly issued pardons ...

When he get's to, 1,947. Then run your tt/TDS inspired mouth.

Obama absolved the sentences of 1,937 convicts


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Reply #9 - 11/28/20 at 08:01:10
 
How many of those were personal friends or family members?...
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Reply #10 - 11/28/20 at 14:14:28
 
Really?
The F.B.I. guys decided Flynn had done nothing wrong.
Then BIG wigs said
No..
Try to be honest.
The guy was railroaded.
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Reply #11 - 11/28/20 at 15:33:20
 

 Obama "pardoned" 212 people.

 Commutations and remissions are separate things.  Trump has issued considerably less of all when compared to Obama.
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Reply #12 - 11/28/20 at 15:39:14
 
Trump has issued considerably less of all when compared to Obama.

And  your point is?


The F.B.I. guys decided Flynn had done nothing wrong.

To be fair, what Flynn did was not that big a deal there was really no reason for him to lie. Nevertheless he did, and it's the felony offence of lying under oath to the FBI that he's being prosecuted for. So you can't say committing a felony offence is not doing anything wrong. Oh sorry my bad you can say that because you are JoG and you can say whatever the fcuk you like because er... that's who you are.
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Reply #13 - 11/28/20 at 15:52:30
 
I think people are missing the word "corrupt" in the heading.

I'm not talking of questionable pardons of which Clinton and Obama both did, and that Trump has also done, for example the pardoning of Arpaio which was also a questionable pardon. But none of the pardons as far as I know, by Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, were 'corruptly issued'. The Arpaio pardon was not corruptly issued and bad as it was, it is within the broad pardon powers of the President.

What is a corrupt pardon? Well this has never been tested in court because the issue has not arisen. Let's say Arpaio paid Trump for a pardon, that would be corrupt, is it illegal? That has not been tested. Maybe, maybe not.

Payment is but one form of renumeration and I doubt any President would deem it worthwhile to issue a corrupt pardon for that reason.

However, Roger Stone was pardoned corruptly because his lies were not to protect himself but to protect the president and the president telegraphed that he would reward that. Stone's testimony would have virtually forced the Senate to remove Trump. Trump signalled to Stone that he need not fear any consequences of lying or flipping because he will be pardoned, that is certainly corrupt.

So pardons that personally benefit the president are by definition corrupt but we don't know if they are illegal. Yet. Can the President pardon himself? Probably not, but again that has not been tested. The Supreme Court shot down Trump's argument that he is immune from the law, that he is above the law and cannot be prosecuted.

This is why the pardoning of Flynn and Stone and any others who lied to cover up illegal activity by the President *have* to be taken to the Supreme Court. They should be reversed because it's obvious the Framers of the Constitution did not want a King, even if Barr thinks otherwise.

Will the Supreme Court agree that the President can pardon himself, will the Supreme Court agree that the pardoning powers of the President have no limit? They might, but this has to be tested. If they do agree then so be it.

However imagine what it would mean if they did agree, it would mean that a future President can do whatever the fcuk he/she wants, without fear. Anything. Anything at all. He could murder someone and pardon himself, he could pay for a political assignation and pardon himself.

Hard to see the Supreme Court agreeing to that, although they might. But it has to be tested.
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Reply #14 - 11/28/20 at 16:06:25
 

"Trump has issued considerably less of all when compared to Obama.

And  your point is?
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 My point is that Trump has issued 212 "pardons".

 He has issued fewer pardons, commutations and remissions than Obama.
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