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Reply #75 - 11/11/20 at 21:18:16
 

"Speaking of obituaries, I just saw a list of 20 names of dead people who voted in Georgia last week, but there’s nothing to see.....everything is on the up and up. There’s no gambling goin* on in this casino."

 There are at least that many in CO as well.  This has happened in past elections, the issue is if it's enough to matter.  There is a percentage of fraud, I am not debating that as I have seen it before.  The issue, for me, is how many allegations exist at this time that are shot down with very basic research and the reply is "How do you know it's debunked? Ya gotta take it to court."

 Not true.  If the evidence is exclusively a Twitter message gone viral, that was proven false multiple times before, that doesn't need to go to court.  It was a lie all along, public opinion or not.  

 The problem in most cases is people won't offer a clear response to what they will consider a Trump loss.  If there is doubt of any kind they will say he won, and that's convenient as "doubt" or "smell" isn't a definitive response.  When I ask what will they accept as a margin of loss they just ramble on about mainstream media, Biden, Obama, Clinton, the other Clinton, CNN, etc. etc.

 It's like wagering on a football game with someone that won't accept a loss because the Officials are always unfair.  

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Reply #76 - 11/11/20 at 22:31:00
 
Trump needs these suckers to pay his bills, one final con before he leaves. The grifter in chief. As Trump said, he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and it wouldn't matter to these people. He can laugh at them to their faces, as he did when he said in Erie, he wouldn't come there but basically he has to. And they still lap it up, and put their lives at risk.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-jokes-he-didn-t-plan-on-campaig...

There's a sucker born every minute and Trump knows there's plenty more where that came from. Hopefully the DoJ will do it's job.
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Reply #77 - 11/11/20 at 23:46:55
 
As Seth Meyers points out, this is nothing new, this is the Republican modus operandi, this is what they do.



And Cuomo rolls the tape when Hilary lost... she conceded the next day in spite of the margins being slimmer.



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Reply #78 - 11/12/20 at 04:52:20
 
Eegore wrote on 11/11/20 at 21:18:16:
"Speaking of obituaries, I just saw a list of 20 names of dead people who voted in Georgia last week, but there’s nothing to see.....everything is on the up and up. There’s no gambling goin* on in this casino."

 There are at least that many in CO as well.  This has happened in past elections, the issue is if it's enough to matter.  There is a percentage of fraud, I am not debating that as I have seen it before.  The issue, for me, is how many allegations exist at this time that are shot down with very basic research and the reply is "How do you know it's debunked? Ya gotta take it to court."

 Not true.  If the evidence is exclusively a Twitter message gone viral, that was proven false multiple times before, that doesn't need to go to court.  It was a lie all along, public opinion or not.  

 The problem in most cases is people won't offer a clear response to what they will consider a Trump loss.  If there is doubt of any kind they will say he won, and that's convenient as "doubt" or "smell" isn't a definitive response.  When I ask what will they accept as a margin of loss they just ramble on about mainstream media, Biden, Obama, Clinton, the other Clinton, CNN, etc. etc.

 It's like wagering on a football game with someone that won't accept a loss because the Officials are always unfair.  

 


Eegore, Adam Schiff is the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee spoke for months he had ABSOLUTE PROOF, evidence there was collusion from the Trump campaign with the Russia government that not only jeopardized national security, but tainted the 2016 election. Many main stream news outlets reported this as fact. A few said obvious facts refute those claims. The majority did not say this has been debunked. In fact, they doubled down with more claims. In the end, after 3 years, the final report showed no evidence anything occurred and ended with what was essentially a NY Times editorial page; “Orangeman Bad””

Sure, people cheat and cast ballots for dead people every year. This year, some states mailed ballots to every registered voter and when these were returned, signatures weren’t compared to what’s on the file.

The election fraud this year is unprecedented. And it was likely planned by higher ups as opposed to a few individual activists. Don’t go along with the crowd and wave things off with the “It’s been debunked” because it hasn’t.

There is no President elect. There may be, there probably will be, but there’s a realistic chance there isn’t. People cheat, people steal. And when states presented a far easier path than usual, it’s naive to think it wasn’t acted on. Democratic leadership knew the polls were not right. They knew they were going to lose seats and state legislators and they did. Are you telling me people who have quest for power as all politicians do, wouldn’t exploit this unique election opportunity? Hardly.
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Reply #79 - 11/12/20 at 06:08:36
 
WebsterMark wrote on 11/12/20 at 04:52:20:
The election fraud this year is unprecedented. And it was likely planned by higher ups as opposed to a few individual activists.


This is part and parcel of Webster’s illness- start with pure fiction from his imagination, proclaim it fact, then speculate on the implications of his delusion.

People cheat, people steal.

As ever, Webster presumes everyone suffers from his ethical challenges, projects the moral failures of his ilk on to everybody else.   No, Webster, not everyone worked to radically Gerrymand, sabotage the Census, close massive numbers of polling places, suppress voter participation, purge legitimate voters from the rolls, elevate White Supremacists, and encourage insurrection- that was your team.

Again, a reminder: Webster is as sociopath, boasting here that his vote for Trump was in hopes of spurring an armed Civil War.   He betrays his country and own intellect with equal lack of good faith.   Like a termite, his motives undermine, wishes for and promotes rot.   He demonstrates no capacity.to self reflect on his notions of universal corrupting self interest.

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Reply #80 - 11/12/20 at 08:21:18
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/11/20 at 07:26:22:
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Anything Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Trump, or his lawyers
say should be flushed down the toilet ...  

OK your opinion. Mine is:
Anything  Biden/Harris/etc, or their lawyers say,
SHOULD, be flushed down the TOILET !

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Reply #81 - 11/12/20 at 08:27:53
 
WebsterMark wrote on 11/12/20 at 04:52:20:
Eegore, Adam Schiff is the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee spoke for months he had ABSOLUTE PROOF, evidence there was collusion from the Trump campaign with the Russia government that not only jeopardized national security, but tainted the 2016 election.

Ignore the facts... Huh

Senate Intelligence Committee releases final report on 2016 Russian interference
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volu...

COMMITTEE SENSITIVE -RUSSIA INVESTIGATION ONLY I. (U) FINDINGS (U) The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi-faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Parts of this effort are outlined in the Committee's earlier volumes on election security, social media, the Obama Administration's response to the threat, and the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA).
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Reply #82 - 11/12/20 at 08:28:00
 
Mavigogun wrote on 11/12/20 at 06:08:36:
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As ever, Webster presumes everyone ...
projects the moral failures ...
 on to everybody else. ...

Na, that is just the UL, DFI, FDS, Socialists that do that !
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Reply #83 - 11/12/20 at 08:30:39
 
MnSpring wrote on 11/12/20 at 08:21:18:
Serowbot wrote on 11/11/20 at 07:26:22:
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Anything Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Trump, or his lawyers
say should be flushed down the toilet ...  

OK your opinion. Mine is:
Anything  Biden/Harris/etc, or their lawyers say,
SHOULD, be flushed down the TOILET !


Not my opinion,... the courts opinion, and Fox News opinion.
They argued in court that no reasonable viewer should take anything Tucker says as fact.

The two are not equatable.  Huh
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Reply #84 - 11/12/20 at 08:36:47
 
Mavigogun wrote on 11/12/20 at 06:08:36:
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This is part and parcel of Webster’s illness
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What is this Illness you speak of ?
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Reply #85 - 11/12/20 at 09:01:36
 
MnSpring wrote on 11/12/20 at 08:36:47:
What is this Illness you speak of ?


Well documented and described on these pages, the label you choose to apply is of no consiquence without a good faith regard of those symptoms.
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Reply #86 - 11/12/20 at 09:38:02
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/12/20 at 08:27:53:
WebsterMark wrote on 11/12/20 at 04:52:20:
Eegore, Adam Schiff is the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee spoke for months he had ABSOLUTE PROOF, evidence there was collusion from the Trump campaign with the Russia government that not only jeopardized national security, but tainted the 2016 election.

Ignore the facts... Huh

Senate Intelligence Committee releases final report on 2016 Russian interference
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volu...

COMMITTEE SENSITIVE -RUSSIA INVESTIGATION ONLY I. (U) FINDINGS (U) The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi-faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Parts of this effort are outlined in the Committee's earlier volumes on election security, social media, the Obama Administration's response to the threat, and the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA).


You either missed the point are you purposely avoided it. The allegation was Trump was actively working with the Russian government which was never proven in fact all evidence pointed otherwise.

All of you leftist on here are regularly suspicious of all types of information released but all of a sudden now you just accept everything you’re told. You refuse to believe evidence that showed Trump had no involvement with Russia so you hung your hopes on a three year long investigation.

On the Kavanaugh confirmation, you  believed anything you read regardless of how ridiculous it was. And I’m sure you still probably believe some of it was true. Despite evidence to the contrary.

Now you want me to just dismiss the possibility of voter fraud in an environment that was ripe for cheating. Nothing to see here folks, no need to investigate, no need to look any closer, just except it. F that.
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Reply #87 - 11/12/20 at 09:44:01
 
"The election fraud this year is unprecedented. And it was likely planned by higher ups as opposed to a few individual activists. Don’t go along with the crowd and wave things off with the “It’s been debunked” because it hasn’t."

 Yes it has.  The specific part I am talking about regarding Clinton having ownership of Dominion software as "undeniable truth" has been debunked, multiple times over multiple years.  Just because it went up on Twitter, again, and Powell mentioned it doesn't not mean it needs to be investigated again.

 It has been debunked.  Public opinion won't change that.

 If you owned a company and for 5 years you have seen false information about a conflict in interest due to a competing investor that you have known is false for years, would you investigate it every time the exact, identical, exactly the same with a 0% change in evidence was presented?

 If you got an email twice a year with the same false information would you say it's not debunked and investigate it over and over?
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Reply #88 - 11/12/20 at 10:26:43
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/12/20 at 08:27:53:
WebsterMark wrote on 11/12/20 at 04:52:20:
Eegore, Adam Schiff is the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee spoke for months he had ABSOLUTE PROOF, evidence there was collusion from the Trump campaign with the Russia government that not only jeopardized national security, but tainted the 2016 election.

Ignore the facts... Huh

Senate Intelligence Committee releases final report on 2016 Russian interference
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volu...

COMMITTEE SENSITIVE -RUSSIA INVESTIGATION ONLY I. (U) FINDINGS (U) The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multi-faceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Parts of this effort are outlined in the Committee's earlier volumes on election security, social media, the Obama Administration's response to the threat, and the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA).


And had what to say about collusion?
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Reply #89 - 11/12/20 at 10:30:29
 
It said pretty much everything we told you was true the past three years wasn’t.

And now I’m told “Yea, but this time we mean it.”
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