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11/03/20 at 04:43:10
 
For a lifelong political junkie, this is the every 4 year Olympics.

My first Presidential vote cast was for Jimmy Carter. I don’t remember much about the early 80’s, my version of the 60’s. Lots of motorcycles, motorcycle accidents, beer, drugs, girls,....it’s mostly a blur. Thank God a wonderful woman had one serious flaw in her life, me, or I’d been worm food a long time ago.

I actually voted for Bill Clinton the first time. Then I got a real job and we moved out of town by ourselves. Thrown into the deep end of a pool and being a controller of a multimillion dollar business, I realized what a bunch of BS the Democratic platform was. Taking a dollar from a business, spending .90 cents of that on administrative overhead to run some program that actually only returns.10 cents was legalized theft. I had to deal with unions which was like trying to work with the mafia. Then I had children and realized ProChoice just means ending a life for convenience sake. Hello Republicans and haven’t turned back.

For all their flaws, the Republican core ideas are vastly superior to the other side and that was before the Democrats turned and charges straight towards socialism/ communism.
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Reply #1 - 11/03/20 at 07:19:49
 
If Republican core ideas are vastly superior,.. how did Trump ever get elected?
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Reply #2 - 11/03/20 at 07:33:51
 
I’m not sure you can remove the filters you’ve put in front of you to understand.

Trump is far from ideal, his flaws are many and deep. But despite all those, and in fact because we know all of those, he’s a better choice. Trump is the most honest and transparent politician today.

I know everything about Donald Trump, I am able to weigh those against the alternative, and find them acceptable.

I know with a certainty how Joe Biden presents himself is not at all how he really is. Joe Biden is no different than many other lifelong career politician.

And again like I’ve said before, my very first dividing line is pro choice versus pro life. All things being equal I would always choose the candidate most likely to restrict abortions or at least not ease current restrictions any farther than currently exist. My second choice is the one who demonstrates they understand they don’t have an automatic right to my money. Which ties into my third one closely which is the candidate most likely to leave me the hell alone let me live my life the way I want to. Trump wins on all of those points.
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Reply #3 - 11/03/20 at 11:42:29
 
 I don't typically vote by party, and if it were up to me I'd remove the house of representatives and attempt a method of zero-party politics using modern technology to have data-driven policy.  If I could put a group of investors and ethicists in charge of money I'd do it.

 I do agree with Webstermark that typically Republican policy is more fiscally responsible.  While I may want change, it's not free, so in most cases Republican policy presents useable math, not pipe-dreams.  As for abortion, I do not feel that women who are raped by their fathers should be forced to bear a child and be given the explanation that God wanted it to happen.  I understand combatting abuse of a legalized system, but to use religion to force women to have children that could kill them during birth or as a product of rape under the "God's Will" platform is ridiculous to me.

 
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Reply #4 - 11/03/20 at 11:53:22
 
Through where I was born, I have had to deal with poverty and seen the consequences that come with it such, as crime abuse violence. illness both physical and mental.

Later, coming into contact with millionaires and well-to-do businessmen through my profession, I initially thought they were doing better.

Besides taking better care of themselves. I found an even bigger flaw there. An enormous arogance.

They thought they could bend live to their liking and constantly talked about themselves how wonderful they were.

They behaved very socially, but when it came down to it, they did not shy away from pushing everyone into the dark if they benefited from it.
My conclusion was that if they could earn money from your death today, you would be on the other side of the grass tomorrow.

It was only such a thin layer of civilization that it made me shiver.

A network of good old boys who only thought in terms of money and smeared their opponents wherever possible.
Their main priority was money, sex and publikrelations.

I've seen both sides. It's the same everywhere.

It is human nature. Consciously and unconsciously, we choose the people we feel most safe with, because deep down we are displaced and fearful.

We say we know things, but we know nothing. We feel like nuts but we say it's going great.

We don,t feel at home nor at ease.
We have a void in us that we try to mask by consuming. We live from desire to desire, but never get fulfilled.
And blame the other person for our unease.

In this childlike state we are going to vote.
No wonder it's a mess.

Left or Right it makes no difference.
We cannot solve anything with politics, something has to transform within us.
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Reply #5 - 11/03/20 at 12:38:12
 
I think you saw what you wanted to see in many of those people. Maybe not all, but many. I was born in absolute poverty as well. When my mother died when I was nine because my dad was too drunk to take her to the hospital, my two older aunts took us four kids into their small middle class house. Many older wealthy church members from the Baptist Church they went to took all of us kids to doctors, dentist, bought us clothes. They did all kinds of things for us. In my jobs, I’ve been fortunate enough to be in close contact with many extremely wealthy people and I’ve never seen anything like you’re talking about. Sure, there’s occasional d!ckhesd but they are the exception, not the rule.

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Reply #6 - 11/03/20 at 13:02:20
 

I think I,s butiful what you wride.

And I'm pretty sure I saw what I saw. I've seen the other side too but that was the exception.

It takes strength to carry wealth, that's true. But very few people are able to come to selflove and that is the only source of love for others.
I say you had a tough start and I,m happy for you, people took good and loving care of you.
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Reply #7 - 11/03/20 at 13:04:52
 
Stop the nightmare, I want to get off. One good thing that has come out of this madness is that it has woken people up out of their self satisfied slumber. I used to be a big fan of Zappa, still am, and he was always imploring Americans to 'don't forget to register to vote'. It's shocking that only 2/3 of Americans are registered to vote. For serious change in the US there needs to be a reenfranchisement.

Whether one is a democrat, republican or somewhere on the spectrum, it's impossible to avoid the fact that his presidency has been an assault on the very democracy that is the US and this should make people of all political persuasions deeply troubled.


I do agree with Webstermark that typically Republican policy is more fiscally responsible.

Maybe once, but it's just branding now. Witness their blowout of the deficit to enrich the already wealthy, in the name of the ludicrous 'trickle down economics'. Not saying that deficits per se are bad, just that it is only a slogan. Watch them go back to their 'austerity' idea once the Democrats are back in power.

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Reply #8 - 11/03/20 at 13:29:19
 
Eegore wrote on 11/03/20 at 11:42:29:
 I don't typically vote by party, and if it were up to me I'd remove the house of representatives and attempt a method of zero-party politics using modern technology to have data-driven policy.  If I could put a group of investors and ethicists in charge of money I'd do it.

 I do agree with Webstermark that typically Republican policy is more fiscally responsible.  While I may want change, it's not free, so in most cases Republican policy presents useable math, not pipe-dreams.  As for abortion, I do not feel that women who are raped by their fathers should be forced to bear a child and be given the explanation that God wanted it to happen.  I understand combatting abuse of a legalized system, but to use religion to force women to have children that could kill them during birth or as a product of rape under the "God's Will" platform is ridiculous to me.

 


You’re going to have to explain you replacing the House plan in greater detail. I heard it said once, and I firmly believe this, but the idea that the US republic is based upon three separate but equal branches of government is not correct. The House of Representatives is at the top of the food chain and the other two are below it. It might not be by much but they are at the top.

As far as abortion goes, if that’s the only time it was used in very rare cases like that I agree with it. I wouldn’t like it but I would understand that. But when it gets used as basically birth control and as a means to an fund an organization, no I don’t agree with. A life is a life. Sometimes life must be taken but it should be under rare circumstances and we should all lose sleep over it.
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Reply #10 - 11/03/20 at 19:01:55
 
Welp it's a lovely warm sunny day here to watch the election. It's not going to be a landslide anyway. Looks like Trump got Florida which he had to do but still a surprise.

Could be down to the rust belt yet again. Ohio might flip which is a good sign. and Texal looks to be turning pretty blue, maybe enough to flip in 2024, but short this time.
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 FL was a surprise?  Not from the news I get.
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Reply #12 - 11/03/20 at 23:47:02
 
I think the surprise was the margin for Florida.

Once again Michael Moore called it correctly, he said the polls saying 8% were wrong, he said they are actually 4% which is within the margin of error, he called Trump an 'evil genius' and that this will be close.

So we are in the nightmare scenario now where it looks like it will hinge on Pennsylvania which haven't counted their mail in ballots and Trump has already called it.

No one thought it would happen but Amy Coney Barrett could very well be deciding the election. Absolutely astounding.
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Reply #13 - 11/03/20 at 23:52:10
 
Here's Michael Moore predicting this...

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Reply #14 - 11/04/20 at 04:53:22
 
Forget about Michael Moore, he doesn’t regularly post ridiculous predictions on this forum, but you do.

Now here comes the shenanigans. Two or three critical states that were always known to be battleground states will drag on for a day or maybe 10 days counting votes where the opportunity exist to plant false ballots.
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