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08/29/20 at 15:06:43

A Decision Made, based on RACE, is the exact definition of a Racist Act. Giving some people MORE because of their race is Exactly as Racist as Giving them Less is. Voting FOR someone because of their race is Exactly as Racist as voting Against them because of their race.
Giving someone a place in school while someone else has higher test scores, because of their race, IS racist,,
and it punishes someone for not being \
The Preferred race..
Which any rational person would identify as
Racism..

Now,, you geniuses can swap a few personal messages and work out your argument,,
Ill wait..
Yeah,, NOW tell me again how Im the bigot,, Im the racist,,
NOPE,, Lefties are the racists,, Because lefties agree with crapping on someone who is more qualified in order to Give something
UNEARNED
to someone else,,
You say its Compassionate.,
While denying the fruits of Their hard work from the actual people who deserve it..
How compassionate!
You give away what they earned, to someone who didnt earn it..

Gosh,, Like how you would
Tax the rich..
and watch them leave,,
Give a place to someone less able to make use of it,, and put someone who worked hard and is capable of accomplishing in a spot they worked and deserved to avoid,
Your compassion is misplaced, misguided and delusional,

Come on,, scream at me,, tell me how cold hearted and eeeevil I am,,

and then EXPLAIN Why it is obviously so.

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Re: change my mind
Reply #1 - 08/29/20 at 17:58:39

A group of people are standing on a street corner.

Their, ‘CRY’, is: "EQUALITY For All”

All the while, demanding MORE for one, (color skin), person,
and LESS for another, (color skin), person.

What do you call them ?

The person called tt, (and his/her Clones),
would call them White Supremacists.

The rest of the knowledgeable people,
Who are remembering the, RIOTS, in the major cities.
Call them Thieves and Destroyers.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: change my mind Reply #2 - 08/29/20 at 19:04:23 Lookin like the Drive By folks ALL have flats
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Reply #3 - 08/30/20 at 05:22:49

well
all these days reminds me of the old story of

"The boy who cried racist "

First The boy saw a republican and he called racist . The towns people got out their pitchforks' and showed up, and they hung him.

Second The boy saw a libertarian and he called racist . The towns people got out their pitchforks' and showed up, and they hung him.

Third The boy saw a sensible old school liberal and he called racist . The towns people got out their pitchforks' and showed up, and they hung him..

But then The boy meet a real racist a klan-black panther but he hung out with this person and he said this is allright he is only a protester.

But the boy was doomed..

Since he called good evil and evil good.

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Matchless G11 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 451 Newfoundland NJ	Re: change my mind Reply #4 - 08/30/20 at 05:28:32 Also the term "racist" looses it meaning when one calls everyone that. As Hall and Oats observed " Smoking guns hot to the touch Would cool down if we didn't use them so much, yeah"
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justin_o_guy2

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Reply #5 - 08/30/20 at 07:33:50

Well, where are the valedictorians?
Im a Trump supporter
And I'm pretty sure that the opposition here believes all Trump supporters are racist,, and I believe lefties are actually the racists,, and here I actually explain my thinking. Not running by, screaming Bullshit and being unwilling to back it up..
Which Would be a bad faith thing..
So, dear lefties, please explain where I'm wrong..

Or just continue with the assertions and accusations. Bad faith, boys,, bad faith..

Come on,, tell me if its true or false,, Here ya go,, SURELY you can answe the question,,

Are these statements correct?

A Decision Made, based on RACE, is the exact definition of a Racist Act. Giving some people MORE because of their race is Exactly as Racist as Giving them Less is. Voting FOR someone because of their race is Exactly as Racist as voting Against them because of their race..Identity politics is a bigoted ideology, period,

If youre unwilling to help the people you would debate in nailing down the definitions,, how can we ever know that when we use a word, how can we know wht the other guy believes it means?

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8343	Re: change my mind Reply #6 - 08/30/20 at 08:13:08 So if nobody responds within 4 hours they are unable to contribute? 15:06:43 to 19:04:23 no responses, must mean you are right? What is the minimum acceptable timeframe for one to log in conduct research and respond?
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Reply #7 - 08/30/20 at 09:17:13

Ohhh, it's wide open, E.
Just wanted to keep it alive and right in front of them.

Here's the definition of bigot from my 1972 Webster's..

A person obstinately and unreasonably wedded to a particular religious creed, opinion,or practice; a person blindly attached to any opinion,system or party, and bitterly intolerant of those who believe differently.

Sounds exactly like lefties believing cops are killing blacks at a rate unlike the rate they kill whites. Evidence exists to show that isn't true. So,continuing to believe it is
Bigoted, by definition.

My post that states that decisions based on race are racist is undeniably correct, but nobody thus far has been willing to agree or make a rational argument against it, because? Because why?
Because unlike the people who just make claims about me and pretend I'm acting in bad faith, and explain nothing to let others see Why they believe that, they use that claim as a shield, and pretend they are exempt from explaining why they said it, because they said it, and it's true, so no need to engage?
Sure looks exactly like a bad faith argument to me.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: change my mind Reply #8 - 08/30/20 at 09:20:15 The hallmark of a bad-faith argument is that it disguises the core point of a debate rather than addressing issues, beliefs, and values head-on. Bad faith arguments aren’t “real” positions; they’re proxy positions people take for rhetorical purposes. Show me where I'm guilty..
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Reply #9 - 08/30/20 at 09:22:57

Eegore wrote on 08/30/20 at 08:13:08:

So if nobody responds within 4 hours they are unable to contribute?

15:06:43 to 19:04:23 no responses, must mean you are right?

What is the minimum acceptable timeframe for one to log in conduct research and respond?

I think the challenge has been up longer than you are saying.
It's been well over any four hours

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28663 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: change my mind Reply #10 - 08/30/20 at 10:04:42 You continually piss into the wind and invite others to join you. No takers?... Can't blame them.
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Reply #11 - 08/30/20 at 10:12:54

People have said things
I disagree
I offer rational arguments
They dont wanna stand their ground and explain WHY they say what they say
I explain why
But
Im not reasonable?
I dont blame them either, row,, because they cant win a real debate
Facts are in my side..
But nobody is gonna change what they believe, regardless of thre facts presented
That makes THEM
Bigots..
not me..
I noticed you have weighed in,,
Am I wrong in what I stated regarding what is racist behavior?

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Re: change my mind
Reply #12 - 08/30/20 at 10:14:05

Heck,, lets make it easy

Just this part,, cmon,, have a say,,

anyone, Bueller?

A Decision Made, based on RACE, is the exact definition of a Racist Act. Giving some people MORE because of their race is Exactly as Racist as Giving them Less is. Voting FOR someone because of their race is Exactly as Racist as voting Against them because of their race.

This is how I see it,, NObody shares such treal thoughts about their own thought processes and decision making,,
If Im wrong,, say so
Explain why,,
Anyone,, dive in,, Is that Not what a forum is for? REal debate?
Lets buonce this around..

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Re: change my mind
Reply #13 - 08/30/20 at 10:53:56

A decision based on race is not necessarily racist.
A decision based on a negative opinion of a race is racist.

A vote for Obama is not racist.
A vote for Obama because you hate white people would be racist.
A vote against Obama is not racist.
A vote against Obama because you hate black people would be racist.

How is such a simple thing so hard to understand?

So, I disagree with your definition.
A "Racist act" is one based upon a negative opinion of a person or group based on their race.

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Reply #14 - 08/30/20 at 11:08:16

What you describe is racist.
Isn't it racist to give a place in school to someone who scored lower than the person who doesn't get to attend?
Isn't it racist to act in favor of someone, solely because of their race?
I know the definition in the internet dictionary, and you have it,
I agree with that
And I think it's an incomplete definition.

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