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Reply #15 - 07/26/20 at 19:12:26
 

"Not much of an excuse when you're talking about the unUnited States. Look what they accomplished in just over two years with the Manhattan Project, and this SARS CoV-2 is often likened to a war"


"Likened" sure, but in practice totally different.

 If every human in the US needed to be laboratory tested 70 years ago it wouldn't have gone any better than it does now.
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Reply #16 - 07/26/20 at 19:40:42
 
"Likened" sure, but in practice totally different.

Look at you, you're using the same disingenuous tactics that that the trumpeters use against you. You learn fast sparrow.

I know you know this but seeing as you want to pretend I'm using a false equivalence I'll explain further. By 'likened' what I'm suggesting is that the people who have likened it to a war, which is a lot of the GOP and Democrats as well from Trump down, mean that it is something serious that requires full government resources not 'good enough' measures. And it certainly is that. It's a global fast spreading pandemic after all.

If every human in the US needed to be laboratory tested 70 years ago it wouldn't have gone any better than it does now.

That makes no sense whatsoever. 70 years ago the structure of DNA wasn't even known. Nevertheless my point was that the US even back then had the wherewithal to do groundbreaking research into new areas of physics and bring their gadgets to fruition.

The Human Genome was only sequenced fully in 2001 at a cost of $3billion, now there are machines that can do it for $100. To suggest that the US is incapable of adequately testing and contact tracing it's citizens is absurd especially as other smaller countries have done it and these are countries with less expertise available. Trump, your non esteemed imbecile leader has been publicly playing down the seriousness and undermined his own experts. In this regard the unUnited States is coming over as a banana republic.

See my above link how the US is not even doing proper randomised trials, there's no excuse for that.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, are you suggesting that the unUnited States is doing a job commensurate with the threat that SARS CoV-2 is presenting?
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Reply #17 - 07/26/20 at 20:16:11
 
btw Eegore, weren't you saying that whether the arrests were constitutional seem to be about which side one was on? Here's the proof of no probable cause for arrest. Ergo not constitutional.

Kris Cline, Deputy Director of the Federal Protective Service—apparently does not know what the word “arrest” means.

The person in the now notorious video was merely in or near a crowd from which someone shone a laser at the police.


Simply put, for an arrest to be constitutional it must be supported by probable cause.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/unpacking-dhss-troubling-explanation-portland-van...
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Reply #18 - 07/26/20 at 20:30:33
 

"Eegore, weren't you saying that whether the arrests were constitutional seem to be about which side one was on?


 Yeah.  People b!tch it's not "Constitutional" about anything and everything if they don't like the person in charge.  Otherwise its all good.

 Actual Constitutional law means nothing.
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Reply #19 - 07/26/20 at 21:52:02
 
Well as you can see from the above article on the Lawfare blog, which is a seriously heavy duty legal site, that objectively these arbitrary 'kidnappings' of random protesters they want to talk with are not constitutional, for the reasons you can read about.
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