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More FEAR !
07/22/20 at 18:20:14
 
ICU beds are almost full …,  …,  …
The rest of the story.
Hospitals on average have 15-25% (of their TOTAL beds), ICU beds, and ONLY those 15-25% of beds in a hospital are 80-90% full.
And, many C-19 patents in the ICU beds have a ‘cough’, complain a lot, they are not all seriously ill patients.

Cases going up more and more every day …,  …, …

The rest of the story.
Testing people, by many ways of testing, and a Postive test, can be due to someone who has/had, a regular cold, a strain of a previous Flu, imune do to antibodies from something. Even people that have NEVER been tested, have recieved a contact saying they are positive. Yet EVERY postive, by what ever means, is countated as a, ‘case’. When the vast, VAST majority of, ‘cases’, have NO effects.

More and more are Dying every day…, …, ...
The rest of the story.
A death by almost any means, is counted as a c-19 death.

Fear, Pedaled by the group who want to take Socialistic Control of this Nation.
And have found a way to have a whole bunch of, ‘usefull idiots’, do the heavy lifting for them.

What was that said so often in the late 30’s.
This Is For Your Own Safety !
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #1 - 07/22/20 at 20:47:52
 
"Hospitals on average have 15-25% (of their TOTAL beds), ICU beds, and ONLY those 15-25% of beds in a hospital are 80-90% full.
And, many C-19 patents in the ICU beds have a ‘cough’, complain a lot, they are not all seriously ill patients."



 The rest of that story:  "On average" means national average when you get these numbers.  So yeah, you take a hospital running over-capacity of intensive care resources and compare it to one's that are not, across the country, you get a "national average".

 Some, not all, ICU units are being utilized past capacity, in areas where SARS-COV-2 is at a peak infection rate.  An empty hospital in Anchorage won't do much for one in Houston.



"And, many C-19 patents in the ICU beds have a ‘cough’, complain a lot, they are not all seriously ill patients."

 Source?



"Testing people, by many ways of testing, and a Postive test, can be due to someone who has/had, a regular cold, a strain of a previous Flu, imune do to antibodies from something."

 Completely incorrect.  You do not get a positive infection test from antibodies, but people say that to skew data.  Also known as spin, and already addressed as "Common knowledge" in another thread here.



"Even people that have NEVER been tested, have recieved a contact saying they are positive."

 Possible but I haven't seen this anywhere.  Can this be referenced, or is this one of those situations where I am expected to provide information but when I ask for it, I will be told to look it up because a past forum member that left said that nonsense?


"Yet EVERY postive, by what ever means, is countated as a, ‘case’. When the vast, VAST majority of, ‘cases’, have NO effects."

 That's the definition of a "Case".  Any infection is a case, even if a person is immune and has no symptoms.  


 Now some of these false positives exist but we don't need to inflate it, spin it and outright lie, like saying antibody tests show false infection positives and are counted as a case.  How hard is it to stop dramatizing something to prove a point?  Why do people complain about one side making $hit up and then also do that same thing?
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Reply #2 - 07/24/20 at 14:03:53
 
100’s of thousand cases …, …, …,
The Rest of The Story
How does c-19 compare to the other ‘pandemics’ throughout the years ?
The people affected by the Swine Flu, (..., …, …, …) were ?
The number of ill were ?
The number that died were ?
(Not using the car accident numbers, or the people that would die because they caught a common cold, because they had a compromised condition)
Do a % comparison, because there was not the, FEAR, factor involved then.

You are, ‘ordered to’, wear a mask when, …, …, …, because Doctors and Nurses wear one.
The Rest of The Story.
The mask/s Doctors & Nurses wear are fitted, a high quality material, and thrown away/cleaned after each use.  No Doctor or Nurse even thinks about going into a environment where a Mask is needed, when they are sick.
98.9% (+/-) regular people wear, wrongly fitted,  ill fitting, designer, poor quality material, inefficient, rarely cleaned masks. Which in many cases can cause the wearer, and a person in close proximity, more harm, then if they were not wearing one.


Again, the point is, (no matter how much SPIN), c-19 is real.
Yet it has been hyped, Hyped, HYPED,
Simply to see how many Shepol one dog can herd !
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #3 - 07/24/20 at 15:11:20
 
Why so bunched up over wearing a mask?
If they don't help,... no harm no foul.
If they do help,.. lives saved, maybe yours.

When the consequence of being wrong one way is slight inconvenience, and the other way is thousands of deaths,... the choice is simple.
Refusing to take simple precautions costs lives, bankrupts businesses, prevents schools from opening, overtaxes healthcare workers, and may create permanent disabilities.
All to make an idiotic political point.

This is why the Republican party is circling the rim of the bowl.
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Reply #4 - 07/24/20 at 15:56:29
 
Whoa there, pahdnuh,,
My attitude toward masks and vaccines has exactly Nothing to do with politics.
And, IIRC, I'm supposed to let Trump make my decisions,, and he is supporting masks,, and I'm still not gonna voluntarily wear one. If I need something bad enough and I can't get it without wearing one, I'll wear it, like Fauci,, as soon as the camera is off, so is the mask.
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Reply #5 - 07/24/20 at 16:18:28
 
"Do a % comparison, because there was not the, FEAR, factor involved then."

 Those infections did not infect as many people is as short of time.  The R0 here is higher and more globally widespread.  If it mostly stayed in China, like avian did, we wouldn't have this issue.



"You are, ‘ordered to’, wear a mask when, …, …, …, because Doctors and Nurses wear one."

 This is fundamentally incorrect.  The mask is intended to reduce the amount of fluids you expel from your mouth into the environment around you.  Somehow this has worked for over a century, but with SARS-COV-2 it magically does not.

 
 This is just a case of fighting misinformation with a different brand of misinformation.
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