SuzukiSavage.com - Yeah,, like this

justin_o_guy2

Serious Thumper

Offline

What happened?

Posts: 55279
East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.

Yeah,, like this
07/15/20 at 17:06:24

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/15/a-scientific-look-at-the-mask-fallacy-and-why-w
ere-told-to-wear-them/

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/15/a-scientific-look-at-the-mask-fallacy-and-wh...

where the report showed 83 people were tested and all tested positive. The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Affairs Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA said officials are looking into the numbers.

NCF Diagnostics has a location in Alachua, which reported 88 percent of tests coming back positive and 98 percent for Orlando Health.

How could that be? FOX 35 News investigated these astronomical numbers, contacting every location mentioned. Orlando Health, the only to answer our question, confirmed errors in the report. Its positivity rate is in fact only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the

Number s like these are being seen by people who use them to make decisions that affect others.
I'm really tired of the Bullshit

Back to top

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.

IP Logged

Eegore

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 8398

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #1 - 07/15/20 at 20:00:43

And for every one of these there is a contradictory one by people who don't work in the field they claim to have accurate information about.

This all goes back to which narrative you want to believe. For instance a CDC article showing masks reducing infection rates is conspiracy, incorrect or otherwise considered false, but a report indicating masks are not effective, useless or negligible - also by the CDC - is all the sudden factual, accurate and to be considered fact.

Two outcomes, same source material.

Back to top

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Yeah,, like this Reply #2 - 07/15/20 at 20:19:00 I never said it was a conspiracy theory That's on you Like Fauci Opposite recommendations Equals Wrong Cdc doesn't create the numbers They get reports When they get lied to Do the math
Back to top	The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke. IP Logged

Eegore

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 8398

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #3 - 07/15/20 at 21:20:24

I think the problem is that people want guys like Fauci to be wrong so they compare statements made before to information known now.

People do the same with Trump, and every one else in politics. If evidence comes out tomorrow saying we should be coughing into each other's mouths to spread antibodies, and Fauci says he looked over the data with multiple teams of specialists and agrees, someone will say "Look Fauci is an idiot, last week he wanted us to wear masks. Trump needs to fire him!"

If the science uncovers new information, we need to use that new information, not hold on to our beliefs from yesterday. Bottom line is right now there is no conclusive information about mask wearing and mass influenza, because it never happened before like this, but people want to have an exact Yes or No answer, so they dig up articles that support their views online.

Nobody really knows yet, the data collection is too unreliable.

Back to top

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2

Serious Thumper

Offline

What happened?

Posts: 55279
East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #4 - 07/15/20 at 21:52:52

Everything has been
Nebulous
Save for the
Advice of the experts.
Fauci opposed Trump's halting travel.
I'm tired of people who clearly have no clue
TELLING me what is best.
Hospitals lie and Jack up infection rates

Suddenly, I have to bend over before I can walk in a store
Because liars
And super smart people
??
And
Shut everyone and everything down
Ohhh
Well, riots are more important than safety..
How convenient

Back to top

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.

IP Logged

WebsterMark

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 13171

Gender: male

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #5 - 07/16/20 at 05:40:41

Let me wade into the middle of this with recent, real world experience. The company I work for is the undisputed leader from a technology point of view in our field. One of the three networks contacted us and we arranged a tour of our manufacturing facility and interview with our R&D head whose been in this field for a long time.

The 90 seconds of airtime on the next evening’s show was perhaps 75% accurate but also perhaps 75% misleading. The comments we’ve seen afterwards shows the real truth was lost in their agenda.

Point is, unless you have real world experience in a particular field, including hands on research, you’re at the mercy of the story teller. You have to discern for yourself what’s likely to be closer to the truth.

Back to top

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2

Serious Thumper

Offline

What happened?

Posts: 55279
East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #6 - 07/16/20 at 05:53:05

Yeah, and I have seen documented evidence that , for some reason, there are some people who feel the need to try to make this seem like the second coming of the black plague. The.04or so fatality rate just isn't worth the hoops they want us jumping through. It's hysteria, and the damage to America is incalculable. It's time to stop acting like cowards and live.

Back to top

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.

IP Logged

WebsterMark

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 13171

Gender: male

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #7 - 07/16/20 at 07:32:35

Honestly, closing schools is a leftist response / attack on Trump and it’s almost unbelievable they would stoop that low.

Speaking of studies and reports, virtually everyone points out and the actual data reflects that children are rarely impacted by Covid. So why not treat teachers and school staff the same as healthcare providers and outfit them with appropriate PPE, and open schools.

The people in position to make these decisions are education and social science majors who are notoriously left leaning to begin with and when you throw the Trump Effect into the mix, kids are used as cannon balls in the war against Trump.

Back to top

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Yeah,, like this Reply #8 - 07/16/20 at 07:50:01 ding, ding, ding,, a winnah, folks..
Back to top	The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke. IP Logged

Serowbot

YaBB Moderator
ModSquad

Offline

OK.... so what's the
speed of dark?

Posts: 28703
Tucson Az
Gender: male

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #9 - 07/16/20 at 11:47:42

You're so smart to take medical advice from a right-wing political site...

PS... wrong on the first paragraph.
Bear spray is not potent. It is diluted to discourage the bear rather than injure it.
Regular pepper spray is stronger.

Quote:

Imagine a large grizzly bear is terrorizing your neighborhood. You have a powerful bear gun and potent bear spray that will make the bear go away or allow you to eliminate it if it attacks you.

Back to top

Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh

...

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Yeah,, like this Reply #10 - 07/16/20 at 12:08:13 Ohh,, you so Smaaaht,,
Back to top	The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke. IP Logged

Eegore

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 8398

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #11 - 07/16/20 at 16:32:12

"Yeah, and I have seen documented evidence that , for some reason, there are some people who feel the need to try to make this seem like the second coming of the black plague."

So why do you keep addressing this? Nobody here has provided any information saying "millions" will die, yet you keep bringing it up. I've asked many times and I am met with silence when I ask for the reports/models of millions dying.

"Fauci opposed Trump's halting travel."

Yeah, the science at the time didn't support that move. A scientist uses science. This further supports what I said before; that anyone can look back and say "You did it wrong."

As the data evolved so does the opinions of people, but instead let's go back and say "Fauci made a wrong decision" as if he stands by that today. He was wrong, but now assesses the current data more accurately. It takes zero skill to look backwards in time and say you would have done it better.

Of course we all know that some people on his forum know considerably more about most things than the people that do the actual jobs in their respective fields. Much like people who have never rode a motorcycle will know more than anyone here about how to ride or maintain a Savage because they look up articles about motorcycles on the internet.

Back to top

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2

Serious Thumper

Offline

What happened?

Posts: 55279
East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #12 - 07/16/20 at 16:51:28

Quit pretending I said crap..

Read it

Yeah,, like this
Yesterday at 01:06:24Alert Board Moderator about this Post! Quote Modify Remove https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/15/a-scientific-look-at-the-mask-fallacy-and-why-w

ere-told-to-wear-them/

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/07/15/a-scientific-look-at-the-mask-fallacy-and-wh...

where the report showed 83 people were tested and all tested positive. The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Affairs Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA said officials are looking into the numbers.

NCF Diagnostics has a location in Alachua, which reported 88 percent of tests coming back positive and 98 percent for Orlando Health.

How could that be? FOX 35 News investigated these astronomical numbers, contacting every location mentioned. Orlando Health, the only to answer our question, confirmed errors in the report. Its positivity rate is in fact only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the

Number s like these are being seen by people who use them to make decisions that affect others.
I'm really tired of the Bullshit

Back to top
The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.Personal Message IP Logged

Wrong, or lying?
I'm supposed to believe medical professionals DIDN'T know they were reporting BULLSHIT,??

Keep defending Fauci.
You want to stand on proven?
He's been Wrong at every turn.
Show me the proof wearing masks stops a virus.

Back to top

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.

IP Logged

Eegore

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 8398

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #13 - 07/16/20 at 17:02:18

"Keep defending Fauci.
You want to stand on proven?
He's been Wrong at every turn.

Except when he's right, but all the information I put up about that is too hard to read, or conveniently ignored.

Show me the proof wearing masks stops a virus.

It reduces the amount of spit that comes out of your mouth and into the world around you. Keep asking how it stops a virus and I will keep saying it reduces spit you put into the world around you.

Your justification for not wearing a mask was you somehow know you are not carrying an influenza virus thus being exempt from the asymptomatic phase you already acknowledged exists. No other known human has this ability.

Back to top

IP Logged

MnSpring

Serious Thumper

Offline

Younger than most
people my age.

Posts: 9387
Minn
Gender: male

Re: Yeah,, like this
Reply #14 - 07/16/20 at 17:17:26

Eegore wrote on 07/16/20 at 16:32:12:

... Nobody here has provided any information saying "millions" will die, ...

Nop, just,
“If you don’t do this and that, this way and that way …, you are …”

(By some here, the VAST majority of the Media, several Political ads, and many, 'officials'.)

IMPLYING, that not, ‘doing’, those things,
will/can cause, ‘many/millions’, to die !

Back to top

Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

IP Logged