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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #15 - 06/14/20 at 14:33:02 Take wheel and axle to the industrial bearing supply and know..
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SavageMan99 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 391	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #16 - 06/15/20 at 17:00:13 I'm not sure what bolt I tried the bearings on, but today the 450 and 650 bearings both fit the same shafts. Guess maybe after a neighbor who brings a 12 pack of pounders isn't the best time for bearing work.
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Reply #17 - 06/17/20 at 09:14:35

SavageMan99 wrote on 06/09/20 at 17:17:55:

Can I just swap in the fork and triple tree from the 450, then mount the SV650 caliper?

I definitely would not swap forks....and especially the triple tree. I initially used some RM250 triple trees in my Cafe' build, and the offset from the steering stem to the fork tubes was less than the stock Savage.

The end result was that the trail was increased, and with the narrow clip on handlebars the bike steered like it was a truck. Also with the fork tubes moved back - the fork tubes will hit the tank when you turn, and when you limit the steering angle enough to keep the tubes from hitting the tank.......you can't turn the bike around in a 2 lane road anymore.

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SavageMan99 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 391	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #18 - 06/17/20 at 10:38:37 Thank you. Very helpful.
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badwolf Serious Thumper Offline Ridin' my Lil' Bagger - 153k miles so far Posts: 793 Palm Beach County, FL Gender:	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #19 - 06/17/20 at 11:57:45 You can use a sv650 caliper for either disc (rotor) but you will have to make a small bracket either way. The easyest way would be to turn down the disc and use the stock caliper. I had one done at a shop, $100 ! My lathe is only 8'' so I couldn't do it myself.
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Re: GL 450 front brake disc.
Reply #20 - 06/17/20 at 13:00:46

Dave wrote on 06/17/20 at 09:14:35:

The end result was that the trail was increased, and with the narrow clip on handlebars the bike steered like it was a truck. Also with the fork tubes moved back -

This problem may be solvable - By flipping the legs left to right. I did a raked 9 deg with KX125 on mine and the axle has to be behind the forks, so flip the legs left to right.

Dave wrote on 06/17/20 at 09:14:35:

the fork tubes will hit the tank when you turn, and when you limit the steering angle enough to keep the tubes from hitting the tank.......you can't turn the bike around in a 2 lane road anymore.

This one isn't solvable without a different tank or a different offset triple set.

BTW there are a few fork legs that will slide in the savage's triples - you know the list, people have posted it here - eliminator 900 is about the best I know of. But maxim700, virago, vulcan 750 etc etc are all close, needing machine work but can be made to work.

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17783 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #21 - 06/17/20 at 15:23:36 The Savage forks have the axle in the middle. Swapping fork legs left to right only gets you a brake caliper on the wrong side.......which result in the bleed screw no longer being at the top.
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Re: Doing cast wheels?!?
Reply #22 - 06/17/20 at 15:46:58

srinath wrote on 06/17/20 at 15:43:10:

Dave wrote on 06/17/20 at 15:23:36:

The Savage forks have the axle in the middle.

Swapping fork legs left to right only gets you a brake caliper on the wrong side.......which result in the bleed screw no longer being at the top.

Never mind - I thought you were running rm250 forks.
Those buggers have the axle in front of the fork leg.
Oddly the drain screw ended up clean on top on my KX125 forks - - There may be a bit of driveway angle at play here, as well as my camera - but really its not that significant.
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SavageMan99 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 391	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #23 - 06/24/20 at 09:04:19 The cast rims seem to have a small valve stem hole. Anyone know what stems I need to buy? 8mm or 10mm?
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Reply #24 - 06/24/20 at 10:58:13

They have those shrader valve things in 2 sizes that I have seen - autoparts store item.
They look like this -
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Excalibur-529-TR412-Valve-Stem/52639458?wmlspartne...

Likely a Walmart item, but take your tire with you - better go to autoparts store, carrying a wheel to wal mart sounds like the begning of a country song.

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SavageMan99 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 391	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #25 - 06/24/20 at 15:45:06 I bought the smaller size at advance. Way to big.
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srinath Serious Thumper Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 5349	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #26 - 06/24/20 at 16:11:20 OMG - the smallest is far too big ? How about a bicycle store ? Or maybe try a bike store like cycle gear. Cool. Srinath.
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SavageMan99 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 391	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #27 - 06/27/20 at 17:37:04 That new clutch and springs is like having 100 more CC's!
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badwolf Serious Thumper Offline Ridin' my Lil' Bagger - 153k miles so far Posts: 793 Palm Beach County, FL Gender:	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #28 - 06/27/20 at 19:40:39 If the small tubeless stem is too big, better check the side of the rim. If it does not say ''tubeless tire applicable'' it is made for a tubed tire. If you are determined to go tubeless on a tube type rim, drill out the hole! BUT, good luck getting the bead to seal, they are two different contours.
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SavageMan99 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 391	Re: Doing cast wheels?!? Reply #29 - 06/27/20 at 20:39:11 Good to know! Thank you.
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