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Reply #30 - 05/17/20 at 20:56:47
 
Sure they are, in cases where their is a Judge like Judge Moyé.


 And thousands of SC cases.  Bad news, 99.99% of judges and juries are ok with the language.

 
"I truly hope you are never on the other side of a good Lawyer arguing the point.?

 This means nothing.  Zero reference, no case law, just claims of "illegal" with not one example, reference, precedence, or case.  This is a direct aversion to the question. Some might have a term for that... Deflection maybe?  


"Several publicized cases, even in the UL News, have been outlined.
Do believe their are several thousand throughout the USA that are  not publicized."


 But you can't reference one?  Convenient.  


"That's OK, You don't believe any of your Freedom has been violated.
So just sit back and accept what is being done."


 Incorrect.  I ask for specific reasons, but you provide zero useable content.  


"I on the other hand, will stand up for my Rights,
and not allow a Socialist, to dictate."


 By complaining online and handing out business cards people throw in the trash?  What laws are you changing?  What directives are you challenging and how?

 What are you providing that other people can use?
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Reply #31 - 05/18/20 at 07:49:20
 
Eegore wrote on 05/17/20 at 20:56:47:
 
Zero reference,
you can't reference one  
you provide zero useable content    

Have you not learned by now, I am not going to do your work for you !  

One time I did give you a significant amount of work, for free, to let you carry on from their, because you alluded to YOU were well versed in following a paper trail.
Then you could not, then you complained I did not, ‘GIVE’ you all the information, then you offered a paltry sum for me to finish the work for you.

"Gov. Jared Polis signed the legislation late last week. Now, the question is whether enough additional states will join the pact to change the way we elect the President of the United States”

"Under the National Interstate Vote Compact, states are pledging to pool their electoral votes towards the presidential candidate who wins the most individual votes nationwide, regardless of whether that person wins their state"



Ya want me to look that up for you also?
Or is that ‘fake’ news, that the State of Colorado will give ALL it's electoral votes
to the candidate who wins the most individual votes nationwide,
regardless of whether that person wins their state.
If it passes in all States,  just Calf and NY, will elect the Pres, so why bother to vote ?
Are you involved in that ?
Or did you just pass out cards that people threw away ?

Just do what you do.

I will stand up for Freedom.
I will fight Tyranny.
I will be against Oppression.

When it comes to common, well known, "Several publicized cases”, of  oppression.
Or the well known cases of Governors, making, ‘rules’ out of thin air, and arbitrary applying them.
And the widely laughed about, ‘rules’ which do not make any sense at all, as well as being totally out side even the most liberal, of Liberal, interruptions of the ‘laws’.
(I will  state a phrase said very often by a person who does not post here any more)
“Don’t be so Lazy, and look them up for yourself.

OK there ya go,
You get the last word,
have at it.
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Reply #32 - 05/18/20 at 08:10:11
 
“Stay at home, lockdown, quarantine, whatever you want to call them, are theoretically constitutional. States/Governors have certain rights that arguably Trump (no pun intended) that, the often times ignored 10th Amendment.

Tough call, but in this day and age, Id say the Supreme Court would rule the Federal Government has the authority to enforce certain lockdown laws.

Note: that doesn’t mean I agree, I’m just saying if a court battle ensued, the Feds would win. Now, there would be restrictions on their reach, but generally speaking, yes the Feds can order certain national regulations.
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Reply #33 - 05/18/20 at 08:51:07
 
So, you have a constitution,, and the constitution even lays out your rights, but, if the government decides you need to forego those rights, for a while, in your own and society's best interest, then the constitution is suspended, pending further notice,,from the government.

Got it.
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Reply #34 - 05/18/20 at 10:11:03
 
How about
Men have no place deciding what women do
and
If YOUR paycheck hasnt stopped, you need to stop pretending you know whats best for people.
If they wanna Just GO somewhere,, well, LET THEM,, If youre scared,, stay home..
Standing on the side of authority, pretending theres some Really Good REason, when the obvious states otherwise,, not good E..
Lockdown was a FukkUP,,
making it last longer is nothng but a political stunt. Destroy the economy
Its the only way t hurt TRump.
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Reply #35 - 05/18/20 at 16:21:24
 

"Have you not learned by now, I am not going to do your work for you !  

One time I did give you a significant amount of work, for free, to let you carry on from their, because you alluded to YOU were well versed in following a paper trail.
Then you could not, then you complained I did not, ‘GIVE’ you all the information, then you offered a paltry sum for me to finish the work for you."


 Incorrect.  You say you currently have proof but you will not provide it.  This is different than saying you gave me all the information you had available.  I am willing to pay for the information you are withholding, that I am unable to retrieve.


"Or is that ‘fake’ news, that the State of Colorado will give ALL it's electoral votes
to the candidate who wins the most individual votes nationwide,
regardless of whether that person wins their state"


 This isn't the topic of legal or illegal quarantine.  Deflection maybe?

 You say stay at home orders are illegal.  How are they illegal?  What laws are being violated?  

 What actual laws make stay at home orders illegal?  I referenced many that show it is.
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Reply #36 - 05/18/20 at 16:34:11
 

"So, you have a constitution,, and the constitution even lays out your rights, but, if the government decides you need to forego those rights, for a while, in your own and society's best interest, then the constitution is suspended, pending further notice,,from the government."

 Not really but its a good way to word it so it sounds worse.

 I've referenced hundreds of pages of documentation on Constitutional law, the difference being I didn't withhold any parts I don't like, and I cite precedence on winning cases.  

 Yes, anyone's rights can be restricted for National or State emergencies.  The "rights" part is that they can't base it off of your race, or similar disparities arbitrarily.  It would be unconstitutional to say White US Citizens are to stay at home, but allow other races to go to work etc.  


"If they wanna Just GO somewhere,, well, LET THEM,, If youre scared,, stay home.."

 Disease prevention does not work that way.  I'd provide information but historically you won't read it anyway, and if it doesn't match observed reality it's wrong.


"Standing on the side of authority, pretending theres some Really Good REason, when the obvious states otherwise,, not good E.. "

 Again you admit you can't retrieve accurate data, but then when you want to prove your point that data is supposed to be accurate?  


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Reply #37 - 05/18/20 at 17:08:59
 
He he he I didn't read most of this thread -
But if some Chinese fool comes to fcuk my a$$ … rest assured before he gets anywhere near it, he's gonna find himself with a shotgun up his A$$ with bits of scrap metal into a shotgun shell and the aforementioned shotgun shoved so far up his A$$ he's gonna be tasting the rust before he gets anywhere near me.

Cool.
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Reply #38 - 05/18/20 at 17:39:15
 
Yeah, Yeah, Ive read some of the Findinof the Black Robed traitors..
The Federal Reserve IS Constitutional
Even tho its frikken NOT
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Reply #39 - 05/19/20 at 08:58:55
 
Many States/Cities still have a, 'Law', on the books saying something to the likes of:
'Every business must have a hitching post in front of their establishment'.

Does NOT, mean it is enforced, or even Valid !

'You can't put a motor on your boat when it is on the water'

Could have been valid,  
               For about 5 seconds !

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