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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Australian Stasis Reply #30 - 04/26/20 at 08:14:23 Those topics ARENT Revealing the methods that allow them to know who the bad guys is somethng they dont wanna do,
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8343	Re: Australian Stasis Reply #31 - 04/26/20 at 08:16:37 "Revealing the methods that allow them to know who the bad guys is somethng they dont wanna do," Right. So they let the bad guys roam free raping children and murdering people because by informing local authorities they will give away their big secret of how they know where they are at all times.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Australian Stasis Reply #32 - 04/26/20 at 09:22:42 By George, I think youve got it.
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Reply #33 - 04/26/20 at 10:01:08

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/26/20 at 09:22:42:
By George, I think youve got it.

Some would say bring out the Tin Foil.

YET, a close friend, who knows a lady in DC, who works for a 3 letter agency.
(She knows her because of mutual ownership/admiration of a rare breed of dog)
Told her several years ago she can tell you everything about anybody you want.

So, if you believe JFK was not boinking MM, Ted Kennedy did not leave Mary Jo to drown, McVeigh did act alone, Foster did commit suicide, and the NSA can not find out anything it wants to know about you. etc, etc, etc, Then go to the dollar store, and buy tin foil.

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Reply #34 - 04/26/20 at 10:24:25

Eegore wrote on 04/26/20 at 08:16:37:

Right. So they let the bad guys roam free raping children and murdering people because by informing local authorities they will give away their big secret of how they know where they are at all times.

At the very least it would be against protocol or more than likely against the law. The overwhelming majority of the individuals who work for those groups are not going to break decorum let alone do something that will cost them their clearance, pension, or job.

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Reply #35 - 04/26/20 at 10:26:45

" the NSA can not find out anything it wants to know about you. etc, etc, etc, Then go to the dollar store, and buy tin foil."

There's a difference between finding out things, and already knowing everything. I know there is considerable resources available to the NSA to conduct investigation, and a tremendous amount of personal information is already in storage. But what is being said is the NSA already knows where everyone is, and who they are at all times.

DC central mainframe gets hacked, already know who it is where they are and how to stop them but wont.

Senator's son disappears, already know where he is, who took him when, how and where they are now.

Hundreds of children raped and filmed, already know where they are, who is doing it, and who is buying the films and where they are.

Illegal immigrants sneak into the country, nope, already know where they all are and who they are.

No finding out, they already know.

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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: Australian Stasis Reply #36 - 04/26/20 at 16:53:32 Eegore wrote on 04/26/20 at 10:26:45: But what is being said is the NSA already knows where everyone is, and who they are at all times. Feel free to show me where that was said in this thread. Best regards,
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: Australian Stasis Reply #37 - 04/27/20 at 08:52:08 California is already getting started. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494242-newsom-wants-to-train-10000-cont act-tracers-in-california https://www.nbcsandiego.com/videos/what-is-coronavirus-contact-tracing/2305863/ Best regards,
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Reply #38 - 04/27/20 at 08:56:30

Eegore wrote on 04/24/20 at 17:47:28:

In this case I am referring to your personal information being given to another person

pg wrote on 04/26/20 at 16:53:32:

Feel free to show me where that was said in this thread.
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It was said by Eegore: "...I am referring to your personal information being given to another person ..."

Yet Eegore morphed it to the very classic method.
Raise a outrage, get people in a outrage, get those outraged people behind you, then they will be outraged enough to remove a freedom for the sake of a security.

Everybody is much more familiar with that method by it's use in 'Gun Banning'.
A DFI total nut job uses a Firearm incorrectly.
The UL Progressive Socialistic FDS's raise outrage,
Moderate Dem's join in the fever, a few UL Rep's are also caught up in the 'outrage' fever.
Solution, remove a Freedom, and you will be safer.

(Just like stop bank robberies by banning a Red car,
because a Red car was used in one)

The introduction of, 'FEAR', into the equation helped greatly.
Yet it is tempered by, 'US' vs 'THEM'. in the case of Firearms.

The powers that be saw that, so they have introduced the 'fear',
of a un-known.
Using C-19, (which is real), and many precautions were necessary at first.
The TPTB saw what was happening to they made sure of the deliberate lack of information, the purposeful lying about why people have died, the intentional falsifying of records to inflate death by C-19.
Goal ? The simple, 'Raise Outrage, then remove a freedom".
(Just P.M. Scott Morrison started it to soon)

In the case of C-19, it is backfiring !!!!!!
Ray Charles could see it is coming apart at the seams.
Real people, (Not PUPPETS), Doctors, Nurses, etc, etc, etc, are coming out by the droves and telling the TRUTH!

So while I, PG, etc, etc, (even BOT LOL), are without a scintilla of a doubt, being 'tracked'.
It is not to the point, (this hour this GPS location, next hour that GPS location etc) Yet if someone believed such a need arises that that a closer, 'tracking' is necessary.
(Would not be in the very vast # of cases, a 'chip' of some sort. It would be feet on the ground)
It can, and WOULD be done in a heartbeat.

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Reply #39 - 04/27/20 at 09:55:27

I asked if someone could be tracked without knowing who that person is. You responded:

"Absolutely the NSA know who these people are"

This, to me, indicates that the NSA knows who everyone is. No anonymity, ever, because anyone who is "tracked" by app or drone is already identified - "know who these people are".

I clarified further by providing an "if" situation:

"My point was if the NSA knows who everyone is, and where they are at all times, they let thousands of children live in sexual slavery a day in the US, and that's just child sexual abuse."

You responded:

"Well we do not want them to violate our constitutional rights do we.... Anyway, their stated goals are national security. Regardless, since when do those people give a rats ass about the people? "

This response, to me, indicates you are assessing a scenario where the NSA "knows who everyone is, and where they are at all times" as in absolute knowledge of all humans in the US at all times.

I presented the scenario again:

"If they have that level of containment, why aren't they using that skill set to disclose locations of systematically abused children through anonymous channels?"

You did not indicate at all that you were assessing something different than the NSA being aware of all humans in the US at all times, specifically in this case sexually abused children. You then presented 6 reasons why the NSA would allow child sex rings to operate, under the presented scenario that the NSA is fully aware of every child, every abuser, every purchaser and that the staff watch the videos presented to them as evidence.

So due to my presented understanding that the NSA "knows" who all people are, then further presenting that locations are also known, it is my understanding that your replies were to that scenario.

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Reply #40 - 04/27/20 at 10:00:33

"Yet Eegore morphed it to the very classic method.
Raise a outrage, get people in a outrage, get those outraged people behind you, then they will be outraged enough to remove a freedom for the sake of a security.

Not what I said.

I very specifically said that the "idea" of the app is it does not disclose your personal information to other people. No outrage. Just a statement about how the app is supposed to work.

I said nothing about outrage, upsetting anyone, angering anyone, getting anyone to agree, follow or otherwise create, assemble or develop an opinion of any kind.

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Reply #41 - 04/27/20 at 11:47:22

C-19 FEAR,
FEAR OF THE UN-KNOWN,
(Done deliberately and with the purpose of removing Freedom)

Does that person standing behind me at the mart-mart, have C-19 ?
I know, I just have to give up some freedom,
then I will have the security of knowing.

Now, if that person does not know,
perhaps he/she goes home and drinks bleach or eat’s tide pods.

And as Martha Stewart always says:
"That would be a GOOD thing"

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Reply #42 - 04/27/20 at 11:55:12

'This, to me, indicates'

'This response, to me, indicates'

'You did not indicate'

Why do you not take what I have to say at face value, my statements are pretty definitive. I am stating my believe is they try to collect as much information about everyone as they possible can primarily through digital or electronic media. Yes, it is stored, catalogued, and numerous algorithms are run based on that data.

And drop the 'kids' drivel, I provided clear-cut reasoning why they don't do anything.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8343	Re: Australian Stasis Reply #43 - 04/27/20 at 17:24:00 "Does that person standing behind me at the mart-mart, have C-19 ? I know, I just have to give up some freedom, then I will have the security of knowing." What freedom? What restriction is in place if you have an app that informs you that you were in proximity of a person that has been confirmed to have an illness?
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Reply #44 - 04/27/20 at 17:26:27

"And drop the 'kids' drivel, I provided clear-cut reasoning why they don't do anything. "

Well that's my point. You offer clear reasons why they know where every child is and why they let many get systematically raped.

So they know where every human in the US is and who they are, but for the reasons you provided, do nothing about it. That's why I thought you mean that the NSA knows where every human in the US is at all times.

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