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04/23/20 at 15:22:42
 
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-04-16/australia-may-keep-coro...

Australians urged to adopt phone tracking app in coronavirus fight.

The app, called TraceTogether, works by exchanging short distance Bluetooth signals with other users of the app, giving officials a database to track potential COVID-19 carriers. The app is being offered voluntarily but it comes at a time when governments across the globe are increasingly seizing on location data to combat the pandemic.

Good luck Sausage!!  I surmise you are probably happy about you and the other socialists will never have privacy ever again on your island.  The Stasis couldn't make this up....

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Re: Australian Stasis
Reply #1 - 04/23/20 at 15:42:30
 
Meanwhile,.. we can hold on to the delusion that we aren't being tracked...  Grin
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Reply #2 - 04/23/20 at 15:45:48
 
pg wrote on 04/23/20 at 15:22:42:
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-04-16/australia-may-keep-coro...
"...Australians urged to adopt phone tracking app in coronavirus fight..."

"PM Morrison said: ... would initially be voluntary...
... However, he declined to rule out

making use of the "TraceTogether" app compulsory ..."

Here is the guess, How Long before it is made MANDATORY ?

(Oh EDS, you can't bet, that would be 'Foreign Intervention',  LOLOL)
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Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #3 - 04/23/20 at 16:20:50
 

 Well the idea is that the random generated codes "hides" your identity.

 Theoretically this can work but it would take something like Apple did with the lack of "back-door" access to iPhones etc.  

 Another problem is how many people don't carry smart tech on them.  I think this would have to be addressed first in order to enforce the usage of an app.  I use a warlock regularly, and sometimes forget to shut it off which causes issue when I'm in town because everyone's phones/vehicle gps etc. around it stop working right.  I imagine this tech will go underground and increase if an app to check our social interaction is mandated.
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Reply #4 - 04/23/20 at 16:21:33
 
Serowbot wrote on 04/23/20 at 15:42:30:
Meanwhile,.. we can hold on to the delusion that we aren't being tracked...  Grin



Are you secretly watching Alex Jones?   Grin

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Reply #5 - 04/23/20 at 16:23:15
 
Serowbot wrote on 04/23/20 at 15:42:30:
Meanwhile,.. we can hold on to the delusion that we aren't being tracked...  Grin

If you allow and condone it,
it, IS, happening.

If you do not want it to happen,
you make a conscientious effort to NOT to allow it to happen.

About 200 years Before this land was called the USA,
people were very tired of a King, 'tracking' and Telling them what they needed to do and think.

Bot, you say you came from the UK.
Did you study UK history from the late 1590's ?

It's up to you, not, them, !
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Reply #6 - 04/23/20 at 18:46:34
 
Eegore wrote on 04/23/20 at 16:20:50:
  Well the idea is that the random generated codes "hides" your identity.

Wait !
The whole POINT is that
YOU are Tracked !!!!

Not HIDDEN


"...mobile phone app that will track their movements..."

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Reply #7 - 04/23/20 at 19:55:48
 
"Wait !
The whole POINT is that
YOU are Tracked !!!!

Not HIDDEN

"...mobile phone app that will track their movements...""


 

 You can track a person and not distribute their identity to other humans.

 You can also track a human and not identify that human.

 The current systems in use now, in Israel, and France, do not disclose everyone's personal identity, this is the same system Australia mentions.  It assigns a code to a person.  

 So when the interaction is analyzed, the codes are tracked by AI, not individual human names.  So your "identity" is "hidden" from other people using the app.
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Reply #8 - 04/23/20 at 20:10:16
 
Eegore wrote on 04/23/20 at 19:55:48:
 You can track a person and not distribute their identity to other humans.

OK  Got it,
You can TRACK another person !
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Reply #9 - 04/23/20 at 20:16:01
 
"OK  Got it,
You can TRACK another person !
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 Yeah.

 Could you go out and follow a person and not know who they are?

 Theoretically that's what these apps are supposed to do.  Randomly assign a number, and track that number.  So when you get a notice that you have been in proximity of someone who has been exposed to X-disease, you are informed of the exposure, but not given the person's name, or any other form of identity.

 That's the idea.  People are tracked by number assignment and not by name.  So the mobile phone app tracks movements.  It doesn't, theoretically need your personal information to do this.


 In this video, the drone operator is tracking movements, does the done operator know all of those people's names?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MabYf9o_2dE
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Reply #10 - 04/24/20 at 05:50:28
 
Eegore wrote on 04/23/20 at 20:16:01:
"OK  Got it,
You can TRACK another person !
"

 Yeah.

 Could you go out and follow a person and not know who they are?



Absolutely the NSA know who these people are.   XKeyscore, is an analytical tool that allows for collection of "almost anything done on the internet."  Regardless, the NSA was paying U.S. private tech companies for clandestine access to their communications networks.

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Reply #11 - 04/24/20 at 15:23:31
 
Those are the people I want the names and phone numbers of,
because they WILL buy the Ocean Front Lots
between Holbrook and Winslow AZ.
Cause they believe;
Eegore wrote on 04/23/20 at 20:16:01:
"... Theoretically that's what these apps are supposed to do ..."  

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Reply #12 - 04/24/20 at 16:17:34
 

 I don't operate under the delusion that my information can not be hacked.  I actually am pro-mass hacking because it puts my information into pools of millions of people, so the chances of my information being used is actually lower that way.

 A telling feature could be if these apps can be installed on burner phones that accept pre-paid cards.  If they can only be placed on verified accounts that is definitely a warning sign.
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Reply #13 - 04/24/20 at 17:42:45
 
Eegore wrote on 04/24/20 at 16:17:34:
 I don't operate under the delusion that my information can not be hacked.  I actually am pro-mass hacking because it puts my information into pools of millions of people, so the chances of my information being used is actually lower that way.



They are storing and cataloging every bit of electronic data on all of us in the Utah Data Center in Bluffton, Utah.  

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Reply #14 - 04/24/20 at 17:47:28
 
"They are storing and cataloging every bit of electronic data on all of us in the Utah Data Center in Bluffton, Utah."

 I'm familiar with the metadata super servers.  

 In this case I am referring to your personal information being given to another person using a quarantine app because you got too close to them.  The idea is to prevent this, and just give out risk warnings to the user.

 The source and government agencies will obviously have more information.  As for the NSA having absolute knowledge of our every move I see signs that this isn't true but a lot of that has to do with my personal opinions regarding what percentage of the population you can convince to murder children.
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