Wow - what a spin -

Even as recently as 12 days ago - India disagrees with you.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anuraghunathan/2020/04/09/indias-drugmakers-ramp...

9 days ago.

Even as chloroquine shows potential for treating COVID-19, doctors warn caution needed

https://abc7.com/health/doctors-say-caution-needed-in-drug-treatment-for-covid-1
9/6082485/

Its just that recently Remdesevir has taken a better route to getting approval etc. The death rate etc etc needs to be matched to severity and how well the patients were otherwise, and since no clinical trials were done its not an easy conclusion to make.

This is why remdesevir is popular as a research tool and for trials etc etc - Its still under patent. Its pricey and hence options to make a lot more $$$. Its now the flavor of the month.

This CNN story is right as accurate as claiming the guy in Arizona who took pool cleaner cos its chloroquine phosphate as a fatality due to HCQ. Spin and garbage.

BTW the first pharma company to file a remdesevir alternate use patent was a pharma company from china - definitely China needs to be nuclear bombed.

Let me talk to my people in India about what they're doing with HCQ and how effective it is etc. HCQ is a very inexpensive drug. That alone is reason to not "research" it for big pharma.

Cool.
Srinath.

eau de sauvage wrote on 04/23/20 at 04:10:10:




Oooooo shocking - that's a pay site. Simply shocking.

Cool.
Srinath.

Nobody just pulled the idea for that medication out theysDumbAss,, Doctors saw test results and figured out that people who were ill and Using this medication, Didnt GET the ViRuss,,,Theres a couple of reasons that medication is prescribed, not exactly rare problems,, I Wish I could remember them now..

Eegore wrote on 04/23/20 at 08:37:01:




Then how is it used and has for decades been very very well researched and effective as a malaria treatment ????

Cool.
Srinath.

srinath wrote on 04/23/20 at 08:53:03:

" ... Then how is it used and has for decades been very very well researched and effective as a malaria treatment ???? ..."

Chloroquine is a replacement for Quinine Sulfate (Replaced in the late 20’s because it was much better without many of the former's side affects) Quinine Sulfate was still around and could be gotten for various sources.

I know this because Quinine Sulfate was routinely used, sold, and passed around, in the world I was highly involved in for over 25 years.
It was used for Leg Cramps.  The ’regular dose’, was to be 2, 300mg tablets, (600mg), every 8 hours for malaria.
The people using it for Leg Cramps, (after walking in a field all day), took 1/4, or 1/8th of one pill.
A dose of 75 to 35 mg, Once for 24 to 48 hours.

If I was very sick with C-19, and someone said here try this drug, it has helped many others.
I would not listen to UL, DFI, FDS, Socialists, who would say:
“No you MUST pay MORE, so I, can make MORE !"

Trump didn't like Merkel and refused to shake her hand at a press conference in the WH, understandable really considering she is a woman and also a trained physicist. Too smart by half. But he loved the bs reception he got in France. Now Germany's fast response and trust in their their health officials has overseen a "textbook" response to the Corona virus, whereas France has completely borked their response much as the USA did under Trump so is it any wonder that now we see this...

"The study at a major Paris hospital suggests a substance in tobacco – possibly nicotine – may be stopping patients who smoke from catching Covid-19. Clinical trials of nicotine patches are awaiting the approval of the country’s health authorities."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/french-study-suggests-smokers-a...


Expect Trump to be touting nicotine patches tomorrow.

Germany has shown the US the difference between an antiscientific populist bs response like France and what could have been done. Look at the figures for France, Spain, and Italy, as opposed to Germany. All geographically, bunched together with similar technical prowess and wealth.

The US, the ones who put together a uranium and a plutonium bomb at the bleeding edge of known science at the time, have plummeted in their ability to do stuff when it's really needed. Fcuk they can't even get their freaking testing organised. And Trump talks about sh!thole countries, and making America great again. The showman and his slogans.

A true leader of any organisation, is not expected to know everything about everything, but he is expected to know how to find and recognise the top people who do know and to bring them on board. However way of leading is  anathema to a clinical narcissist like Trump.

"Then how is it used and has for decades been very very well researched and effective as a malaria treatment ???? "


 I never said it wasn't.  However when taking it to prevent malaria one can have side effects, like any drug, one of them being it's immunosuppressive properties.

 I very specifically said "found in so many elderly" in an attempt to indicate that it is found in the US population among humans age 65 1/2 and older.

 This is not because they are concerned with catching malaria.  It is because it is used in the treatment of arthritis and similar.  This includes side effects, including immunosuppressive ones.