the response team..

Bjjut, just as some element of truth has been revealed about the reporting of fatalities Re CoVid,, The LIE has been looked up as TRUTH,, and only the people who Want the TRuth will allow the truth to AFFECT their opinion now..
C'mon lefties, tell the truth,, being WRONG about this doesn't matter at all, does it?


I knew, because I went hunting for information,, but, that's me..


WAPO - Okay Okay Fine, DJT Didn't Dissolve the Pandemic Response Team Like We Said After All.


For weeks now, the anti-Trump media has been beating their drum and saying the White House used to have a “pandemic response team” and that DJT in a fit of stupidity got rid of it. Because hey, we never have pandemics! Who needs them?  This has been shouted thousands of times over the course of the past weeks by the soft skulls on the tweeter, from major newspapers to fake cable news networks, and in every Democrat campaign rally.

It turns out this story originated with an op-ed in the Washington Post written by one Elizabeth Cameron, who ran the White House pandemic office under Barky Obama. Some sort of change was made to her former domain when the Trump Administration took over and Cameron was apparently butthurt DJT touched it. So she fired the off a shot that Democrats and their media leg humpers have been riffing off ever since.

Just One Problem: It’s not true.....

Silly Rabbit. Very few elements of government are ever disbanded, and it always seems a little suspect to believe that had happened in this case. What does happen, just like in the business world is that areas of responsibility are shifted, the names of things are changed and sometimes resources are redirected. Sometimes an independent entity is deemed better housed in a more established agency, not “disbanded” or “dissolved”, just moved down the hall or changed form. Happens all the time.

Tim Morrison, former senior director for counter-proliferation and bio-defense on the National Security Council, felt compelled to offer the Post a rebuttal piece. Morrison was there and knew exactly what happened, and while I’m sure they were reluctant to do it, the Post allowed Morrison to correct the record:
"It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction.
As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017. One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one.
It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled."
SO,  the pandemic response team wasn’t dissolved at all. It was reorganized to be more efficient and allow the true experts to have a clearer path to offer their expertise to the president. The Elizabeth Cameron piece that started this whole narrative was either a complete lie or the work of a person who didn’t know as much as she thought she did about what was really going on. Either way it should have been fact-checked.

So now that the record has been corrected does anyone really think the original narrative is going to fade away? Do you really think Democrats are going to stop running around claiming DJT “dissolved the pandemic response team” just because it’s patently false? Of course they won’t, which is why it’s irresponsible for the Washington Post to public claims like this in the first place.

They allowed a disgruntled former Obama official to publish a baseless hit piece, and that created a narrative that will long outlast the correction of the record they published yesterday. This is how nonsense takes hold in our political discourse. A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth gets its shoes on. Especially when the media are willing to help give the lie a head start

[WAPO]
[Dan Calabrese]
[DGR]
~ Thank You MJA@IOTWReport for the li

So, there ya go,, Another
Orange Man Bad
debunked

Everything I've seen them report on is twisted to make him look bad. Should this be different? Suddenly, honesty from media? Did they report he gutted that office?Yeah,,
Was it true?
Nooo,
So, why the sudden interest in this old topic?
Wait,, don't bother
I know

I think Trump is too quick to accept responsibility and the media corners him very well in those "on the spot" press conferences.
He really should make sure those are essentially "propaganda" because they cant stop airing it as if to say - we asked him about why this 1 thing he did and instead he's talking irrelevant crap like the tariffs on china and how that will increase the American job creation etc - what an Idiot - except people will watch it and go, these fools are nit picking while Trump is creating a better job market for me by tariffs on china especially after they killed my grandma with china virus.

Cool.
Srinath.

"I see you're pissed off because I won't let semantics determine the definition of
Lying.."

 None of this upsets me, I do not have an emotional connection to this forum.


"Did they report he gutted that office?Yeah,,
Was it true?
Nooo,

Your answer.

What does it say about
Who lied?"


 The news lied.  But people believed it.  

 So that means Trump lied?

 That's what this CDC conversation looks like to me.  The news is doing a sh!t job reporting CDC numbers so the CDC is lying about how they developed a provisional coding method.

"And again,
what is the reason for the, provisional coding method ? "

 We already went over this.  They provided their version of why this is in writing.  There's even written etiology examples.  I'm not going to say that it is absolutely for sure confirmed as a funding issue as I do not have enough evidence to say for sure.  It most likely will be used as such, however historically provisional coding numbers are not the numbers released in final counts.

 So if sh!t new sources want to use provisional coding numbers, then complain about the sh!t news.  

 In this thread the very topic is how sh!t news did a terrible job reporting a topic that a little research would prove to be incorrect.  Why this topic and not pretty much every topic?

"Which news agency sent letters to doctors telling them to use deaths NOT CAUSED by CV and report them as if they were?
Why DO that?"


 No news agency.  When you say "report them" who exactly are those reports going to?  You?  The media?  Or the requesting party?  If these idiots want to go to CNN and FOX and report these numbers as factual then hold those idiots accountable.  It's like blaming the gun manufacturer for the actions of the people using the gun.  Nobody said to release these numbers to the public as SARS-COV-2 causes of death - nobody said to do that.

 They explained why they are requesting this provisional coding method, but I can only assume you won't read it because you continue to claim it says things you can not reference, and you ignore the portions I quote directly from the forms.

 What parts of the CDC documentation and form exercises would you change?  Why?

 And how does the CDC disclosing, publicly, how they want the coding to be done make it a lie?  If I say I want white fences painted black, so I can then categorize the number of black fences and also the number of previously white fences, how did I lie?

"I Don't Fukkin KNOW exactly WHO is responsible for the Bullshit numbers."

 Right, but you claim the CDC is lying, because somebody is reporting numbers wrong.

 They have only, unless you can provide information to the contrary, only said how they want a portion of the reported data documented.  

 They are liars for publicly disclosing their requests?


"Nobody has a Fukking goddarned CLUE what the real numbers are, except to have good reason to believe they are lower than we are being told"

 I agree.  But you claim the CDC is lying because they requested documentation be done in a certain way, and disclosed it to the public.  I am saying that action is not a lie.  The lies are whoever is reporting garbage numbers.


Who is twisting doctor's arms to include people who may have had CV, but damm sure didn't die FROM it?

 The CDC.  They are publicly disclosing this, but you say they are lying.  How?  Because CNN reports garbage.  That's saying I am lying because I told you how I collect information, that I intend to categorize to be more accurate.  Also that's saying you know more than the people who do the job in the real world, not read about it at home.  Which makes sense because the best motorcyclists I know watch YouTube videos and have never been on a bike.