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"Why Knowingly put out figures that aren't Just wrong, but unnecessarily wrong?"
The CDC is not using this provisional coding for the purpose of "putting out" numbers. It is the opposite, it is data collection categorized in a way that it is classified specifically for change.
"I guess someone kinda Had to admit it.. It was coming out.."
Yeah, provisional coding changes have been done for decades so I image someone would have known about it in this case considering the scale of the disease.
"But who is actually making the point that the numbers are lies?"
Anyone that knows what provisional coding is would know it's not intended for definitive release information. Literally the word provisional means it can be changed later. Why is it the CDC's issue if other people are idiots?
Provisional coding, historically, on the initial phase is inclusionary. So there is, with provisional coding, the largest data set that can be gained with associated factors. So historically, provisional coding, has had huge data pools that are cut into pieces. This isn't the first time this has been done.
This has been done with, from what I have been exposed to, Avian, West Nile and H1N1, the initial data pools are gigantic and then categorized. Many get removed from the final infection and mortality rates. This is why official CDC information takes years to get, you don't get 2019 final statistics until 2022 or later for instance.
This process I have seen before and not really seen signs of provisional coding, specifically provisional coding and no other coding, like West Nile, to be a statistic that is publicly released in the first place, however the information is public. The difference is West Nile didn't get on the nightly news and no other President has had CDC members up at press conferences talking about this particular issue, specifically this issue and no other issue.
My guess is that it is implemented now to do what it historically has always been used for, and that is to create a large data pool. This metric is possibly, and likely used in funding analysis so I imagine that helps the CDC a lot.
They mentioned that there are pneumonia patients being classified as exclusively pneumonia that may have been SARS-COV-2. There has to be a coding method to include these and that is why this particular code was described as being implemented.
Now has it been misinterpreted? Absolutely. Can it be abused? Yes.
Should the CDC change their procedures that they have used, reliably, for decades because people won't educate themselves? I don't think so. I think they should do what they have been: be forthright about their data collection methods.
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