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Rust plus aluminium when ignited boils iron.
03/27/20 at 21:47:55
 
I'm probably the last person to find this out, but it's super impressive.

Just some ground rust, and some ground aluminium add a spark to start it and presto, the rust turns to iron and almost reaches the temperature of boiling iron. Once it starts you cannot stop it, under sand, under water, or in the vacuum of deep space, it will continue till it's done.

You know you want to do it.
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Reply #1 - 03/27/20 at 23:50:35
 
Will it work with shaved aluminum , like raking my knife against aluminum block ?    Ground rust should be easy to get .  

Neat trick if it works !  Smiley

I'm guessing a 50/50 mix ?


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Reply #2 - 03/28/20 at 00:03:48
 
eau de sauvage wrote on 03/27/20 at 21:47:55:
... You know you want to do it.




I'll be mighty impressed if you've already done it!
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Reply #3 - 03/28/20 at 00:13:35
 
@MMRanch,

From what I've seen of it, it appears that they both need to be powdered 50/50 and mixed with some sort of binder to hold it together. You start with Iron oxide and aluminium and you end up with Iron and Aluminium oxide.

The Aluminium just rips the oxygen off the rust. It's called a thermite reaction and there is apparently a lot of different metals that are used but the Al and Fe oxide appear to be the fiercest.  

@IR, not yet but I'm working on it, there's a lot of videos of it on youtube. For railways, they leave about an inch of space between the pieces that need to be joined, heat it all up, then light the touch fuse. The slag floats to the top and the molten iron pours out and the slag overflows.

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Reply #4 - 03/28/20 at 08:27:10
 
That must be like those "Fire Starters"  you shave off some of the  block then throw a spark into it.
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But :   What if you shaved the WHOLE BLOCK !   Huh
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I've seen those blocks that you can shoot to explode them , how/what are they ?


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Reply #5 - 03/28/20 at 08:49:41
 
That's tannerite.
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Reply #6 - 03/29/20 at 01:00:49
 
@JoG, it's not tannerite, which is explosive. This stuff just gets hot. Like about 4,500F, iron melts at 2,700F

@MMRanch, that would be a block of magnesium.
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Re: Rust plus aluminium when ignited boils iron.
Reply #4 - 03/28/20 at 16:27:10Alert Board Moderator about this Post! Quote That must be like those "Fire Starters"  you shave off some of the  block then throw a spark into it.
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Reply #6 - Yesterday at 09:00:49Alert Board Moderator about this Post! Quote @JoG, it's not tannerite, which is explosive. This stuff just gets hot. Like about 4,500F, iron melts at 2,700F

@MMRanch, that would be a block of magnesium.      


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I've seen those blocks that you can shoot to explode them , how/what are they ?


Yeah, its Tannerite that commonly seen that upon being shot, they blow up..

And I so often dont follow you, and force an explanation that sjhouldnt be needed,,
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"Now i know how badly I irritate Eegore."

 What did you mean by this?  Why would this thread annoy anyone?
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Reply #11 - 03/30/20 at 19:25:07
 
I remember seeing a film of this rail welding technique when I was at high school a few years ago. I think magnesium did have a part to play in it.
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TIME to hear from MM,
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"Now i know how badly I irritate Eegore."

What did you mean when you typed this?  I hadn't even commented on this thread.


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Reply #14 - 03/31/20 at 15:57:49
 
Eegore wrote on 03/31/20 at 03:25:53:
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What did you mean when you typed this?  I hadn't even commented on this thread.




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