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Reply #30 - 02/27/20 at 09:22:33
 
GS450 was an early 80's UJM actually it was a 70's UJM.
The savage tank is so wide in the front on a savage because the speedometer is in it, to get any fuel capacity (say 2.5 gal) they had to have that wide in front tank. The speedometer makes it much wider. The 80's and 70's bikes like the gs450, intruder, magna, etc etc etc all had 2.4-3 gal tanks and none were as wide as savage mainly due to not having speedometer in the tank. The GS450 or was it the 550 had a nice teardrop cruiser-ish tank. Would have worked just fine on a savage.

A speedo less tank designed to fit with a fork set with far less offset is the key, the massive offset in the triples are to accommodate the tank, not any handling related or look related reasons.

Now speaking of style over function - the speedo in tank looks cool.
It makes for handling and FE related nightmares. Exacerbated by not having 21" wheel etc.

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Reply #31 - 02/27/20 at 12:44:51
 
d3adrock wrote on 02/27/20 at 08:35:58:
A 21 inch wheel might have been nice, although made the front a bit large looking. I'd be interested in seeing somone who's modded their front to a 21" wheel. I wish theyd gone 16 in back and 21 in front.


Watch your trail if you go with very much rake and a 21" front wheel. There are online calculators for figuring rake and trail. Try one of those using a 19" wheel first, then plug in a 21" instead of the 19" and look at how much trail increases then. Generally at 7" or more of trail, handling will start to suffer. If you are near 7" and then go to a 21" wheel, that will push the trail well past 7" then. Look at some pictures of the really radical choppers from the early 70's, and how many of those were running 14" or even 12" front wheels to keep trail manageable.
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Reply #32 - 02/27/20 at 13:08:52
 
True, the advantage is, 21" spins lesser rpm for any speed, than a 19, and the moment of inertia is dependent on square of the rpm. So 10% less is actually 20% less.

The next thing is, the offset needs to be reduced and a FE without the savage's constraint of the tank will be less, and 21" wheel in my case was further reducing the trail because I ran the axle trailing  the fork legs reducing trail even more.

Its had a lot less trail than stock, but yes a 19" wheel would reduce the trail even more in that setup.

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Reply #33 - 02/28/20 at 08:36:18
 
The savage is light enough and short enough wheel base that fitting it with good rubber and turning the monster offset/high trail forks into short offset and very low trail would make a bike that handles on par with a GS500 that's been put on a weight loss plan and made narrower. If you haven't ridden one of those, I suggest you do that to really know what café handling is. Seriously a café is about handling, its about taking an anemic bike and run rings around bigger bikes, precisely because handling trumps brute power except in a straight line.
That's not what chopping it and raking it is supposed to do, its what café should. My next savage build will be for true handling not café in looks only.
Besides these savage forks are rusty, the tank etc etc already been bought, its gotta be cheaper to slap this assorted gs based FE's I got lying about than doing anything else.

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Reply #34 - 03/03/20 at 02:56:40
 
hey Fast 650, that member was Blade......and he still drops in occassionally-
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Reply #35 - 03/03/20 at 07:58:10
 
Nice ride! Is that 4" over? Got any more pics, possibly with the steering facing forward?
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Reply #36 - 03/05/20 at 04:26:25
 
Yes +4" from Frank's Forks. Great fun to ride.
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