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The Left and Right recede from one another.
02/09/20 at 06:27:10
 
Short of a disaster on an epic scale, Divine intervention or an acknowledgment of defeat, I don’t see where or how the chasm closes.

If Trump wins in 2020 (which is an extremely high probability) the left will once again be at a crossroad. The only chance at pulling this nation back together, even to a slight degree, rest entirely upon the left’s shoulders.

When some rams fight, they repeatedly smash heads together but sooner or later the loser backs away. He falls in line with the herd, becomes part of the group’s defense when needed, but all the while he reevaluates, remakes himself, get stronger and returns to a fight again, but he’s not the same ram as he was before.

So it is with our leftist friends. They need to acknowledge defeat, regroup and return as Democrats, not as enemies to the historical United States of America.
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Reply #1 - 02/09/20 at 06:55:11
 
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So it is with our leftist friends. They need to acknowledge defeat, regroup and return as Democrats, not as enemies to the historical United States of America.


They will be back.

acknowledge defeat : not going to happen

return ... not as enemies...: too late for that

They are insane.


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Reply #2 - 02/09/20 at 07:55:57
 
oldNslow wrote on 02/09/20 at 06:55:11:
They are insane.



Infantcide, New Path Forward Act, so on so forth...….

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Reply #3 - 02/09/20 at 08:09:14
 
For example

You're a
Science Denier
If you don't buy into the whole
Global warming Bullshit..

But you're completely sane if you believe a male, born with a y chromosome, can declare itself female,
And it's FUKKING TRUE..

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Reply #4 - 02/09/20 at 09:03:37
 
It will close/change......most folks do not give a ratz arse about this stuff, like we do.

Ya gotta remember, folks all want pretty much the same things in life, regardless of race, gender, beliefs, etc...

The key element is achieving that, is the ability for a person to achieve it on their own free from strings and conditions that require a portion of our independence, free will.....to be surrender and beholden.

That number is way more huge, than those who fret, over a narrative, by those who capitalize on packaging anxiety.......

The key is capitalism, but its still needs to be fettered, and tweaked, and that is a fluid and changing condition, based on the uncertainties of life, itself.....

Web, be of good cheer, we are instructed, as such, by one who knows the end....that bro, is our witness, don't fall prey to the mindset of uncertainty and evil.

Look at Apostle Paul......he is as relevant today, as he was when he walked the earth.....  Wink
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Reply #5 - 02/09/20 at 09:12:36
 
The key is capitalism, but its still needs to be fettered, and tweaked, and that is a fluid and changi

Are you sure?
Maybe it's crony capitalism that is the problem.
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Reply #6 - 02/09/20 at 09:51:53
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/09/20 at 09:12:36:
The key is capitalism, but its still needs to be fettered, and tweaked, and that is a fluid and changi

Are you sure?
Maybe it's crony capitalism that is the problem.


Yep.....that is part of the puzzle. We need to figure out a way it pays MORE to invest in ways that "spread the wealth" than to a select group who already HAVE the wealth.....

Any ideas?
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Ideas....

End the Fed...

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Reply #8 - 02/10/20 at 05:08:33
 
Yep.....that is part of the puzzle. We need to figure out a way it pays MORE to invest in ways that "spread the wealth" than to a select group who already HAVE the wealth.....

Any ideas?


No, we don’t need to try and make a better mousetrap, it works fine. “Take care of widows and orphans...” If you take a bird feeder away, birds will find some way to get food.

There is no “scarlet letter” anymore. Failure is a badge of honor. Comfort pets on every flight, high school boys saying they’re girls and playing on sports teams, every struggle is due to some new type of depression...... how the hell did this great nation rise to the heights it has and now all of a sudden,  we’re built on a house of cards?

Again, take care of widows and orphans but those who are able, need to step up a little bit more. This country doesn’t supply prosperity, it’s supplies equality of opportunity and when we fail at that, we need to address it, but stop pretending “the American Dream” is a guarantee, it’s not. It’s really “The American Opportunity.”
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Reply #9 - 02/10/20 at 07:00:25
 
raydawg wrote on 02/09/20 at 09:51:53:
... We need to figure out a way it pays MORE to invest in ways that "spread the wealth" than to a select group who already HAVE the wealth....

I believe most of those people, that have gobs of money, already are spreading it..
I believe a whole lot of people/companies give great big gobs of money to organizations/charities.
It is the B.S.'s of this Nation who are stuffing that money in their own pockets.

Not, "Capitalism", but, "Crony's",
AKA, UL FDS Socialists, (like AOC, BS and tt), putting that money destined for 'widows & orphans', into their pocket, and the pockets of their 'good' buddies.

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Reply #10 - 02/10/20 at 15:57:24
 
“The American Opportunity.”

I can dig that, but Web, can you honestly say everyone has the same chances, access to it?  Undecided
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Reply #11 - 02/10/20 at 16:27:35
 
raydawg wrote on 02/10/20 at 15:57:24:
“The American Opportunity.”

I can dig that, but Web, can you honestly say everyone has the same chances, access to it?  Undecided


I wont presume to answer for web but I'll answer:


"can you honestly say everyone has the same chances,"

Of course not. Life is not fair,

Trying to pretend that it is, or can be, or can be made to be, is a fools errand.

You play the hand you're dealt to the best of your ability.

If you claim agency and free will there is no other choice.

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Reply #12 - 02/10/20 at 17:55:20
 
oldNslow wrote on 02/10/20 at 16:27:35:
raydawg wrote on 02/10/20 at 15:57:24:
“The American Opportunity.”

I can dig that, but Web, can you honestly say everyone has the same chances, access to it?  Undecided


I wont presume to answer for web but I'll answer:


"can you honestly say everyone has the same chances,"

Of course not. Life is not fair,

Trying to pretend that it is, or can be, or can be made to be, is a fools errand.

You play the hand you're dealt to the best of your ability.

If you claim agency and free will there is no other choice.



C'mon..... not saying make life "fair".

I am just saying none of know about another persons struggles, obstacles, etc, until we walk a mile in their shoes.....

Perhaps we could knock of some of those steps....is all I am saying.
You know, like find a pond, lead them to it, then its up to them to drink from it.....

We can help, without enabling, it does not have to be one, or the other, of two extremes, that is what is letting all this division fester.....

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I am just saying none of know about another persons struggles, obstacles, etc, until we walk a mile in their shoes.....

Perhaps we could knock of some of those steps....is all I am saying.
You know, like find a pond, lead them to it, then its up to them to drink from it.....

We can help..


Of course. As long as we do it from our own free will.  From our own concept of moral and compassionate behavior, or a sense of duty to others.. And without sacrificing or own  individual agency in the process.

But that isn't what our leftist compatriots want, is it? They want to compel us to behave so as to conform to THEIR interpretation of what is "fair". Not convince us, persuade us,  no, COMPEL us. By force if need be.

All you need to do is listen to the things they say.











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oldNslow wrote on 02/10/20 at 18:30:53:
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I am just saying none of know about another persons struggles, obstacles, etc, until we walk a mile in their shoes.....

Perhaps we could knock off some of those steps....is all I am saying.
You know, like find a pond, lead them to it, then its up to them to drink from it.....

We can help..


Of course. As long as we do it from our own free will.  From our own concept of moral and compassionate behavior, or a sense of duty to others.. And without sacrificing or own  individual agency in the process.

But that isn't what our leftist compatriots want, is it? They want to compel us to behave so as to conform to THEIR interpretation of what is "fair". Not convince us, persuade us,  no, COMPEL us. By force if need be.

All you need to do is listen to the things they say.




I agree, that is why we need dialogue between folks, so we can circumvent those who merely use others to empower and enrich, themselves.........
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