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Reply #15 - 01/28/20 at 16:27:32

Pick one.

srinath wrote on 01/26/20 at 16:54:44:

As a non gun owner and not a huge fan of it anyway, ...
Maybe time to get myself armed, ...
I've been reluctant to do so for now.

srinath wrote on 01/27/20 at 08:08:04:

At my previous house, the one thing that everyone around me "Knew"
was that I was armed.
Literally wasn't even a question.

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Reply #16 - 01/28/20 at 19:16:38

"As a non gun owner and not a huge fan of it anyway, ...
Maybe time to get myself armed, ...
I've been reluctant to do so for now. "

At my previous house, the one thing that everyone around me "Knew"
was that I was armed.
Literally wasn't even a question.

Why pick one?

Couldn't it be interpreted as this:

Previously in my life the one thing everyone around me "knew" was that it was no question that I had a firearm at my house.

However Today, as in "for now" I am reluctant to arm myself like I once was, as I have never been a huge fan of carrying a firearm.

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Reply #17 - 01/28/20 at 19:55:15

Grrrr man you guys are missing it.
I never owned a gun. It was all attitude. My previous house was in a subdivision, I was out in front and talking to people, fixing bikes and generally giving the impression that I am a 1 man biker gang. Atleast 4 bikes in my driveway, atleast 2 non functional, but those 2 varied week to week. It was almost like I could take em apart and put em back together better at will. The man, the myth, the legend … the biker gang - was in force. It was easy to do so, the situation let me do it, and I filled that role with panache.

New house - well its cop, cop, me, cop and a house set 275 or so feet back from the street and garage behind the house. And I can fix bikes all I want, no one is walking by or driving slow looking at me. In fact the teenagers and even younger ones that populate a subdivision are pretty much not within a 100 miles it looks like. So who am I gonna show off my bike wrenching skills and get a leg up with. However its not necessary. Simple, every one around me is a cop. And 2 of the 3 are home all the time.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: I was wondering Reply #18 - 01/28/20 at 20:33:11 I didn't miss it. The way you wrote Everyone "Knew " you were armed.. But, hey, I'm not a lefty.
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9388 Minn Gender:	Re: I was wondering Reply #19 - 01/29/20 at 06:01:09 srinath wrote on 01/28/20 at 19:55:15: "... I never owned a gun. It was all attitude..." "...giving the impression...." That's fine, it is your choice to own/not own, a Firearm. Interesting that, in choosing not to own a Firearm, you still rely on one.
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Reply #20 - 01/29/20 at 06:30:19

MnSpring wrote on 01/29/20 at 06:01:09:

srinath wrote on 01/28/20 at 19:55:15:
"... I never owned a gun. It was all attitude..."
"...giving the impression...."

That's fine, it is your choice to own/not own, a Firearm.

Interesting that, in choosing not to own a Firearm,
you still rely on one.

You mean by relying on cops next door ? I'm actually relying on their cars sitting in the driveway facing my house and far closer to my house than his (he's got like 8 other cars anyway). I guess the implication is that he has a gun, but then again most people think there are no shootings at police stations because everyone inside is armed … duh, its cos they're the only ones armed, they got metal detectors at the door. Cant get past it with nothing but the "lead" in your pencil. Now its impossible to start a shootout with graphite LOL.

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Reply #21 - 01/29/20 at 16:04:37

It's like saying you rely on plumbing to keep feces out of your home, but you don't own trenching or plumbing tools. That's fine, but remember you are relying on others to be trained, and have the equipment needed to keep your home free of disease.

Or that you rely on the internet to post things but you don't have your own ISP distributing from your home.

Or that you rely on clean water, but you don't have your own water filtration and testing center in your home.

I imagine there are a lot of things we choose not to own and rely on someone else to know, and have the equipment to get it done for us.

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Reply #22 - 01/30/20 at 06:45:18

Eegore wrote on 01/29/20 at 16:04:37:

It's like saying you rely on plumbing to keep feces out of your home, ...

So if someone, says water is bad, makes things up saying water is bad, says we can live with out water, says their is no need for water, etc., etc., etc.

Then depends on water, by using it through other peoples efforts.
That's perfectly OK ?

Or is that like a Bank Robber using a red car, then banning red cars, expecting to stop Bank Robberies ?

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Reply #23 - 01/30/20 at 16:01:25

"Then depends on water, by using it through other peoples efforts.
That's perfectly OK ?"

I didn't say it was ok, you did. Srinath didn't say he chose to not have a firearm in his home because anyone said it was bad. Nothing about this conversation is about anyone saying firearms are good or bad. None of it.

It's about personal choice.

Anyone's personal choice, to not have plumbing supplies and water treatment in their home means they must rely on the equipment and skills of someone else.

That's it. Done. Nothing about plumbing is good or bad. It's done. That's is the point and the only point being made.

If someone chooses to not have backup power, or create their own electricity on their own property, they must rely on the equipment and skills of somebody, or some other organization. That's it. It is not a debate about whether electricity is good or bad. It's saying that electricity, unless you generate your own, is in the hands of someone else.

"Or is that like a Bank Robber using a red car, then banning red cars, expecting to stop Bank Robberies ?"

It is nothing like that at all. Nothing about the conversation was about banning anything. Nothing.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: I was wondering Reply #24 - 01/30/20 at 19:05:43 Rabbit hole
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8401	Re: I was wondering Reply #25 - 01/30/20 at 19:25:58 "Rabbit hole" Or maybe what I said is all I was saying. Nothing more.
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Reply #26 - 01/30/20 at 19:54:04

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/26/20 at 12:44:11:

Seems as reasonable an explanation as any...

Mass Shooting Evokes Meh From Media - Moonbattery
Normally, the liberal media establishment loves mass shootings. These opportunities to attack the right to bear arms are often celebrated for weeks and even months on end. But not all mass shootings are equal. There was one in Seattle last Wednesday that barely registered on the national news.

Marquise Latrelle Tolbert, William Ray Tolliver, and an unnamed third person pulled out guns and started shooting at each other during evening rush hour in a crime-ridden downtown area called “The Blade,” killing a bystander and wounding seven others, including a 9-year-old boy. Tolbert and Tolliver remained at large after the event, although Tolliver has now been caught.

NOQ Report explains why the shooting evoked a meh from the media:

• The suspects are Black. Gun control advocates prefer Caucasian suspects.

• Both had lengthy criminal records. Gun control advocates want previously law-abiding citizens to prove their points.

• It occurred in a gun-free zone in the mass transit section of downtown. Gun control advocates refuse to believe gun-free zones don’t work.

• As felons, both suspects were already prohibited from owning or carrying firearms. Gun control advocates do not like stories proving that gun control doesn’t work.

• All eight victims appear to have been caught in a crossfire of a dispute instead of being targeted following a racist social media post or a manifesto being published online. Gun control advocates like manifestos.

These are not the kind of suspects the media hypes, because they are reminders that law-abiding citizens need to be able to protect themselves:

On a tip from Lyle.

No gun zone
People killing innocents
Should not even be on the street
Much less armed

So, the lefties say
Disarm people
And don't say otherwise
Why
BECAUSE YOU IDIOTS HAVE FOUGHT TOOTH AND NAIL DEFENDING NO GUN ZONES..

I remember the Bullshit whining and wailing as sane people push for more concealed carry..

It's amply demonstrated to be a better solution than vulnerable, unarmed targets.
But, EEEEEK, GUNS

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8401	Re: I was wondering Reply #27 - 01/30/20 at 21:23:54 Who here has indicated no gun zones are good? I can't recall if anyone has actually supported them.
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: I was wondering Reply #28 - 01/30/20 at 21:26:26 Eegore wrote on 01/30/20 at 21:23:54: Who here has indicated no gun zones are good? I can't recall if anyone has actually supported them. Are they.....laws?
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Reply #29 - 01/30/20 at 22:38:25

Eegore wrote on 01/30/20 at 21:23:54:

Who here has indicated no gun zones are good?

I can't recall if anyone has actually supported them.

Really? Take a vote.

I don't bother trying to remember which lefties I actually had to argue with, but I'm Quite certain that my suggestions that those
No Gun zone signs come down and teachers be allowed to carry was met with much scorn.

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