Money out of pocket to buy from an importer causes businesses to hunt another source.

Be it
Taxes, which Caused our manufacturing to run out of America
Or
Tariffs
Coupled with a more friendly tax structure at home, which invites them back..

Getting lefties to see that, otoh, seems impossible.

They are all against tariffs, but for taxes, even after they WATCHED manufacturers leave.

Brilliant..

Missing the point Eegore.

I am looking for where tariffs hurt the consumer where it re builds the manufacturing - I thought metal would be a good spot to get that type of effect as opposed to say electronics or labor heavy crap.

Cool.
Srinath.

  I've posted offer 200 pages of WTO data when this came up the first time that nobody even bothered to look at.  A very extensive, and accurate report was done, posted here by someone else and the response was along the lines that only a geek would read it.

 I assume this is because anecdotal information is easier to deal with and will 100% of the time be in your favor.


""I actually make a case that its not hard enough to spur the American manufacturers to make tanks.""

 This addresses one item that may or may not even be impacted by the tariffs.  Is the tank being bought from a manufacturer that moved to the US due to tariffs?  Which ones?  What ratios?  How do we know the planning stages weren't done prior to tariff implementation?

 Because one item is cheaper and manufactured in the US is not evidence of tariff success.

 If I buy one item and its more expensive than overseas manufacture because of US labor laws, then tariffs hurt the consumer by this logic.  

SpamyToo wrote on 01/12/20 at 01:28:27:




I agree on the pollution as well as using political prisoner labor etc and working people to death.
However this tank and the 3 other tanks they make is no where near 20 hrs labor. Its likely completely automated and maybe 5-15 min manyal labor per tank, mostly in the packaging of it, in fact they even bagged  cap and petcock. Now the added question is, I have had other stuff shipped from china which cost me less than cost of shipping it next door.
Something is off there as well. And it works against the US based sellers. I cant ship my amplifier (for example) for less than what they sell and ship it from china.

Cool.
Srinath.

I wanna make 40 bucks a hour, flipping hamburgers.....

Then the world will be happy, ever after.

Economics, emotions, wants, and needs, stir in politics.....

You go taste it.

Everyone has a different palate.

Go figger.

Now, lets just fix it......make it fair.

Everyone gets the same helping.

Eat up.

What you mean, not enough to even bother with.....  

It's free.....  

I knew it was some crap like that, china uses US postal system which is bankrupt BTW to deliver sheite from NY or CA to me for free while the postal money order commissions that were supposed to be paid to send $$$ to china have been subverted by paypal, there by bankrupting the postal system, along with Idiots who use Priority mail boxes for moving and as file cabinet dividers or to keep their groceries etc. - Trust me I know all 3 along with Idiots who have a "warehouse" full of crap they sell on ebay for ridiculous asking $$$ so nothing sells, and its all going to the dump - with 1000's of priority mail boxes.

I think that class 3 for china ends when they used political or protest against some BS like land confiscation etc prisoners to make their sheitte as well as doing "infrastructure" in tiber to rob them of all the lithium etc etc. You bet the Chinese think it was "most beneficial"

Cool.
Srinath.