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Armen Serious Thumper Offline Half-Witted Wrench-Jockey from Jersey Posts: 1431	Delete compression release? 11/28/19 at 08:42:10 Anyone running their bike without a compression release? Does this murder the starter? thanks Armen
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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Delete compression release? Reply #1 - 11/28/19 at 08:51:11 Armen, I think Dave has done that.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 4997 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Delete compression release? Reply #2 - 11/28/19 at 09:01:23 I have that RYCA thumb lever , but have never needed it. Starter doesn't seem to be labored or struggling on cold or hot starts , but it's there if I ever need it.
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Delete compression release? Reply #3 - 11/28/19 at 09:21:03 I don't think it would be good to try it on a bike that didn't have the anti-kickback gear in the starter gear train ,that might be tempting fate.
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DesertCat Full Member Offline Posts: 192	Re: Delete compression release? Reply #4 - 11/28/19 at 10:06:30 What years of the LS650 have a compression release? The last bike I owned that had a compression release in synch with the starter was my 1972 Yamaha XS650 ????
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28754 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Delete compression release? Reply #5 - 11/28/19 at 14:32:47 I’ve deleted the solenoid on beast. You’ll only need it if your battery is weak. I put on Rycas lever
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Reply #6 - 11/28/19 at 15:28:49

With the stock piston......you likely can get by without the compression release if you don't try to start the bike in frigid weather. With really cold oil and a really cold battery - it might be the reason Suzuki put it on.

With the Wiseco, I don't need my compression release 99 out of 100 starts. The only time you need it is when the engine stopped with the piston at the bottom of the compression stroke - the starter cannot push the piston up against the compression without some inertia from rotating parts.

I have a BMX lever on the handlebar that runs the compression release by way of a cable.

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Reply #7 - 11/28/19 at 16:05:52

A compression release cable would be the perfect thing to install in one hole of the triple clamp in a custom build, should be like a choke plunger and it can even go back in by itself, not stay open.
Then obviously the other hole has the ignition switch. Its almost like they put these there at the factory, I mean your savage didn't come that way ??? Its like turn the key, pull that plunger, pull in clutch and hit start.

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Reply #8 - 11/28/19 at 18:27:32

Thanks for the hints.
Yes, all Savages had a solenoid operated compression release.
RYCA is out of stock on their lever, so I'll make one.
Stock piston for now, def fab a lever when I do the high compression 695.
Because I've deleted the faux chrome covers, not much in the way of putting a lever right there.
Of course, on the past puttering session, I found I was missing a few minor parts again. So, three tiny parts orders in three weeks where the shipping is almost as much as the parts :-0
While I'm waiting on parts, I'm figuring out seat and tank mounts. Woof

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Armen Serious Thumper Offline Half-Witted Wrench-Jockey from Jersey Posts: 1431	Re: Delete compression release? Reply #9 - 11/28/19 at 18:29:19 And, I've upgraded the starter gear train to the anti-kickback one.
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DesertCat Full Member Offline Posts: 192	Re: Delete compression release? Reply #10 - 11/28/19 at 18:29:41 Armen wrote on 11/28/19 at 18:27:32: Yes, all Savages had a solenoid operated compression release. ======================= Do you mean that all LS650s, from 1986 to 2019, have come with a compression release?
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Armen Serious Thumper Offline Half-Witted Wrench-Jockey from Jersey Posts: 1431	Re: Delete compression release? Reply #11 - 11/28/19 at 18:32:48 Cat, Yes, AFAIK
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DesertCat Full Member Offline Posts: 192	Re: Delete compression release? Reply #12 - 11/28/19 at 18:37:30 Armen wrote on 11/28/19 at 18:32:48: Cat, Yes, AFAIK ======================= Thanks.
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Re: Delete compression release?
Reply #13 - 11/29/19 at 03:47:02

DesertCat wrote on 11/28/19 at 18:29:41:

Armen wrote on 11/28/19 at 18:27:32:

Yes, all Savages had a solenoid operated compression release.

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Do you mean that all LS650s, from 1986 to 2019, have come with a compression release?

The LS400 did not have a compression release - but all 650's do. The LS400 never came to the USA.

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DesertCat Full Member Offline Posts: 192	Re: Delete compression release? Reply #14 - 11/29/19 at 05:18:11 Thanks Boss! Sometimes when people use the model name "Savage" I think they are referring to LS650s up until the name change to "S40 Boulevard".
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