raydawg wrote on 11/21/19 at 09:40:18:



Bernie Sanders has several plans in his platform.  As does Warren.

http://berniesanders.com/issues/housing-all/

http://elizabethwarren.com/plans/safe-affordable-housing


They are socialist in nature and you yourself have dismissed all socialist ideals.


Why are you asking this when you refuse any answers?

You were challenged, Ray- and provoked.   Which would show himself: the man, or the Dawg?   I don't know if it is a choice.   I'm a sucker for hope.   And change.

See, I never expected those things to be delivered to me.   Maybe, if I can set aside ego, a hand can be extended, we can make this a better place.   If that's what you want- a good faith effort -you'll have to follow through with commitment.

Some of Trump's resorts only have 30% occupancy...
Seems like such a waste...

raydawg wrote on 11/21/19 at 14:45:35:




how deep do you want to go personally ray??
are you REALLY serious??
examples you can do
1]sell your boat and camper and truck and donate the proceeds to your local homeless shelter
2]donate 20% of your pension, stock profits
get my point?

BTW any homeless in your tribe?? if so
what help are they receiving? are you helping?

raydawg wrote on 11/21/19 at 17:09:30:


get YOU to do something YOU brought it up......

pg wrote on 11/21/19 at 18:18:39:


OK...it was just a attempt to bring dialogue, but it appears that isn't possible.
You could have shared what transpired with the ones you referenced, what was tried, what might have helped, etc...

I use to go down once a month, to Seattle, me and some buddies, taking food, clothing, etc, listening to them, sharing, offering hope, and help, if they wanted it.....
Most admitted they had issues with booze, and bad choices.
I shared some of the stories before, here.
That was about 10 years ago, before the drugs made it very unsafe to venture into these areas at night....
It was before they were just everywhere, you had to go back into some dark areas, away from the lights, etc, to find them.

Never mind.....  

You guys carry on, it seems to fill a need, in you all.

 I don't think there is a solution to "homelessness in the US".

 It can be reduced, and I feel the best solution is mitigation of the factors that precede homelessness.  Unfortunately some of these factors are completely in the control of the person who will become homeless so no manner of preparation or available resource will prevent it.

 To have a decent discussion about this we would first need to define what we think homelessness is.

 To me, it is someone without a stable, consistent living environment that allows one to be productive, clean, and healthy within the constrains of their genetic makeup and the environment if they choose to be.

 This does not mean immobile housing, one can have a "home" in a vehicle as long as it meets the parameters above.  One can have a "home" in a college dorm, a series of hotels, or a boat if one chooses to do so.


Note: This post is an opinion in response to what I consider pertinent and valuable discussion material.  While they are words on a screen I contribute in an attempt to engage in discussion instead of contributing by slinging insults at other members.